Rutgers is content to be awful

[Pat125]

In Northern New Jersey, we usually say that we are going "down" the shore. The Shore natives "affectionately" call us Bennies.

 

[JayRU09]

We put our money into the only sport that really matters for the power five (well, the power five conferences that actually matter).

We utilized deficit spending to expand our stadium and improve our facilities, and the investment paid off with our membership in the Big Ten.

However, it also came at the expense of using every single shred of political capital our Athletic Department had and then some. The subsidy that we run is a huge target for all the forces going against Rutgers athletics, namely politicians, journalists, and academics.

Our only goal for our AD right now is to get the subsidy to $11 million, which would gives us a $20-35 million dollar surplus once the full Big Ten paychecks start rolling in.

So are we punting on basketball? For now yes, and we have every right to. We can't deficit spend because the outcry from our detractors would be too much, and we can't raise the money because our only large donors just want to give to football.

Of course, now we're seeing those same detractors of our subsidy turning around and saying we should deficit spend to improve our basketball facilities.

As a Rutgers fan, whenever politicians and journalists say we should do something.......it just smells like a trap.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

In Northern New Jersey, we usually say that we are going "down" the shore. The Shore natives "affectionately" call us Bennies.

Are you sure it's a term of affection?
In AZ we call them snowbirds ,but it's usually preceded by an choice adjective.

 

[auggie22]

I'll defer to my kids' judgement on this one. A few years ago we had a family get together for a week in Narragansett. First day we're there my mom came back with a fist full of wrist bands. It cost $10/day just to access the shore there. My kids walked through the concrete barrier, took one look at the brown sand and red seaweed and promptly declared it a dump. Same thing a few days later at Newport.

It's difficult to find any redeeming value for a beach north of the Outer Banks in NC.

We will agree to disagree. There are at least five beaches on the cape and one on LI that I can think of without effort - not even thinking about the islands - which in my view are better than any beach outside of the keys that I have been to down south. Have not been to the outer banks or florida's Atlantic coas. Warmer water, sure. Red clay, litter and seaweed, too.

I also believe that RI and Jersey beaches are generally dumpy.

 

[TRest]

We put our money into the only sport that really matters for the power five (well, the power five conferences that actually matter).

We utilized deficit spending to expand our stadium and improve our facilities, and the investment paid off with our membership in the Big Ten.

However, it also came at the expense of using every single shred of political capital our Athletic Department had and then some. The subsidy that we run is a huge target for all the forces going against Rutgers athletics, namely politicians, journalists, and academics.

Our only goal for our AD right now is to get the subsidy to $11 million, which would gives us a $20-35 million dollar surplus once the full Big Ten paychecks start rolling in.

So are we punting on basketball? For now yes, and we have every right to. We can't deficit spend because the outcry from our detractors would be too much, and we can't raise the money because our only large donors just want to give to football.

Of course, now we're seeing those same detractors of our subsidy turning around and saying we should deficit spend to improve our basketball facilities.

As a Rutgers fan, whenever politicians and journalists say we should do something..it just smells like a trap.

I remember RU fans claiming the stadium expansion was paying for itself with increased ticket sales, donations, seat licenses, etc. And if you start running a $20-35 million surplus, shouldn't the first thing to go would be the subsidy?

 

[Hoophound]

Rhode Island has some good beaches that are less cluttered, East Beach, Charlestown and others around that area are nice and unspoiled. East Beach is my favorite.

The Cape has gorgeous, sandy beaches that are like those in the North Carolina.

I personally like the beaches on the Gulf from Clearwater to Sarasota (Siesta and Longboat Keys) to Venice, to Naples. All have some very nice looking clear water a lot of the time and sandy beaches.

I am not a fan of the dark water up north. I want to see my sharks before they eat me. I was once bumped hard in the leg by a huge animal while standing in neck deep water in Rhode Island. It was horrifying and I don't get in the water past my waste much anymore.

 

[billybud]

I was raised on the Florida northern gulf...the beaches from Pensacola through Navarre to Destin and through to Panama City are beautiful.....sugar white sand, emerald green water....

 

[Hoophound]

I was raised on the Florida northern gulf...the beaches from Pensacola through Navarre to Destin and through to Panama City are beautiful.....sugar white sand, emerald green water....

Yes, Destin is nice. Have some friends that just moved there last year. Very nice beach.

 

[Pat125]

Are you sure it's a term of affection?
In AZ we call them snowbirds ,but it's usually preceded by an choice adjective.

Definitely not. My quotes were meant to indicate sarcasm. But I did get to meet a lot of nice people from South Jersey.

 

[buddy]

We put our money into the only sport that really matters for the power five (well, the power five conferences that actually matter).

We utilized deficit spending to expand our stadium and improve our facilities, and the investment paid off with our membership in the Big Ten.

However, it also came at the expense of using every single shred of political capital our Athletic Department had and then some. The subsidy that we run is a huge target for all the forces going against Rutgers athletics, namely politicians, journalists, and academics.

Our only goal for our AD right now is to get the subsidy to $11 million, which would gives us a $20-35 million dollar surplus once the full Big Ten paychecks start rolling in.

So are we punting on basketball? For now yes, and we have every right to. We can't deficit spend because the outcry from our detractors would be too much, and we can't raise the money because our only large donors just want to give to football.

Of course, now we're seeing those same detractors of our subsidy turning around and saying we should deficit spend to improve our basketball facilities.

As a Rutgers fan, whenever politicians and journalists say we should do something..it just smells like a trap.

There is no need to get defensive Jay. RU won. Period. You are in the B1G. UConn is nowhere. Relax. Anything posted here will not effect the millions and millions that RU rakes in as members of the B1G. RU will not be thrown out of the B1G. You all won the lottery. We get it. No matter what anyone says here about how bad RU athletics may be on the field or court, it doesn't matter. You are in the B1G. UConn is not. Chill out. This blog does not effect RU in any way, other than maybe hurting your pride as a man who love athletics.

 

[RegisteredUconn]

In Northern New Jersey, we usually say that we are going "down" the shore. The Shore natives "affectionately" call us Bennies.

You can tell if the person is from New Jersey because they just call it "the shore." Out of staters call it the "Jersey Shore."

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Rhode Island has some good beaches that are less cluttered, East Beach, Charlestown and others around that area are nice and unspoiled. East Beach is my favorite.

The Cape has gorgeous, sandy beaches that are like those in the North Carolina.

I personally like the beaches on the Gulf from Clearwater to Sarasota (Siesta and Longboat Keys) to Venice, to Naples. All have some very nice looking clear water a lot of the time and sandy beaches.

I am not a fan of the dark water up north. I want to see my sharks before they eat me. I was once bumped hard in the leg by a huge animal while standing in neck deep water in Rhode Island. It was horrifying and I don't get in the water past my waste much anymore.

We use to go to East Beach years ago , we rented cottages when the kids were still home. We loved it.
I actually like Rhode Island
Connecticut has 110 miles of coastline , with most of it private.
I did learn to swim at seaside park. It was a great place in the 50's.
But My favorite beaches are in the Carribean.
85 deg crystal clear water.
I go to Cobo yearly but the water can't compare.
Unless I'm jet skiing or trekking to Lovers Beach ,I prefer to use the pools or hot tubs at the timeshares. You guys would love the swim up bars.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Are you sure it's a term of affection?
In AZ we call them snowbirds ,but it's usually preceded by an choice adjective.

What's the difference between a snowbird and a snowbird?

Snow birds leave every summer. snowbirds stay for life.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Been cliff diving into Lake Superior. Spent much of my youth fishing for walleye and swimming in Burt Lake. Spend a weekend in the summer floating down The Rifle River on an inner tube consuming mass quantities of beverages. Boating, water skiing, jet skiing, fishing, swimming, done it all. Kid Rocks song about summertime in Northern Michigan is about as spot on as I can remember.

I love Summer in Michigan. So much to do outdoors with the only aquatic animal to worry about are the occasional leach.

Ever go to the Jobbie Nooner on Lake St. Clair north of Detroit? Had a friend take me while I Was in Detroit for work one year around 2005 or so. Basically Mardi Gras by boat.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Gridners...that one threw me for a loop when I arrived on campus frshman year. Never heard them called that before. Hoagies and subs, yes...grinders, nope. I still remember when we moved into the dorms Freshman year and learning at the same time that subs were called grinders and that the package store closed at 8pm (both had to do with us getting down to Ted's before 8pm to get a case of Piels bar bottles (that toughened my stomach up) and a cheeseburger grinder) and thinking to myself, where did I just move to. Then I had a cheeseburger grinder and knew I made the right decision!

...and before Taco Bell showed-up, a Run to the Border to the border meant that one was out of beer after 8 PM on a Saturday or Sunday and have to make a run up to Mass.

What about freshmen orientation at the Fuzzy Grape in nearby Webster, Massachusetts, because the entrance age there was 18?

 

[dayooper]

Ever go to the Jobbie Nooner on Lake St. Clair north of Detroit? Had a friend take me while I Was in Detroit for work one year around 2005 or so. Basically Mardi Gras by boat.

No, but know people who have. It's kinda waned over the past few years. Police and DNR have been cracking down on the drunken boating big time. I have done the sand bar thing on Secord Lake with a bunch of cheap tequila and a volleyball net.

 

[Chin Diesel]

All the Great Lake stuff sounds great, but I don't go in to water below 74 degrees. That is just insane.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

We will agree to disagree. There are at least five beaches on the cape and one on LI that I can think of without effort - not even thinking about the islands - which in my view are better than any beach outside of the keys that I have been to down south. Have not been to the outer banks or florida's Atlantic coas. Warmer water, sure. Red clay, litter and seaweed, too.

I also believe that RI and Jersey beaches are generally dumpy.

I always felt that Misquamicut in RI was a lot better than Hammonasset in CT and especially Silver Sands as every thunderstorm that rolled through overwhelmed the nearby sewage treatments plants. Yuck.

Taking the family to Wildwood this June with some neighbors for the first time. Have not heard a bad thing about Wildwood so far other that some folks prefer Cape May (historical, quant) or Long Beach Island (LBI), which is quite, more. A few friends in Philly and DC swear by Bethany Beach in Delaware. Up north, Coast Guard Beach on Cape Cod and Crane Beach in Ipswich are my two favorite beaches in Mass. I avoid Hamption Beach in NH as feels more like the Jersey Shore from TV fame without the boardwalk. Except for Old Orchard Beach, which has a Canadian infestation, the beaches from Scarborough to Ogunquit in Maine are also beautiful; but, the water’s usually too cold, even in the summer. Good place for lobster, though.

Outside of the East Coast, have found the LA beaches overrated and just not a fan of Florida. The southern Riviera in France is amazing with the coach north of Marseille is more pebble than sand. My roommate from France spent time in Mallorca (Spain) and loved it. My wife’s favorite beach to date is Punta Cana in the Dominican Republic while I prefer Aruba.

Damn, it’s been a long winter and we may get 5” to 10” tonight.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

No, but know people who have. It's kind a waned over the past few years. Police and DNR have been cracking down on the drunken boating big time. I have done the sand bar thing on Secord Lake with a bunch of cheap tequila and a volleyball net.

No surprise, law enforcement usually takes notice when film crews and music acts start showing-up. Plus, a lot of those folks were auto line workers and as we all know, a lot of those jobs were lost and never came back. Still, I have never seen that much uncovered female anatomy in a single day in my life.

 

[dayooper]

No surprise, law enforcement usually takes notice when film crews and music acts start showing-up. Plus, a lot of those folks were auto line workers and as we all know, a lot of those jobs were lost and never came back. Still, I have never seen that much uncovered female anatomy in a single day in my life.

Welcome to Michigan!

 

[dayooper]

All the Great Lake stuff sounds great, but I don't go in to water below 74 degrees. That is just insane.

Coldest summertime swim/dive was 56 degrees in Lake Superior. Most of the interior lakes are pretty warm, upwards of 70 degrees.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Welcome to Michigan!

From 2002 through 2010, I was in Michigan for work at least 4 times a year and I covered Michigan from St. Joe's (speaking of great beaches) where I worked with Whirlpool to the epitome of a company town - Midland, aka Dow Town, to downtown Detroit to visit GM in the RenCen. I learned about the Jobbie Nooner, tornado sirens in East Lansing, not to wear anything resembling Ohio St colors in Ann Arbor, taking the Tunnel/Drunk bus back from Windsor to Detroit in Friday night's with the under 21 crowd, free parking at Detroit Tiger games by parking at the Greektown Casino playing one had of blackjack for $5 after the game to get my free parking pass validated, etc.

 

[Seaa Blue]

Coldest summertime swim/dive was 56 degrees in Lake Superior. Most of the interior lakes are pretty warm, upwards of 70 degrees.

Warmer near the Cook nuclear plant south of St. Joe. (kidding)

BTW, the Rutgers guys are talking about you talking about them. I'll hang up now and listen.
https://rutgers com/showmsg.asp?fid=642&tid=179334976&mid=179334976&sid=988&style=2

 

[Fishy]

Warmer near the Cook nuclear plant south of St. Joe. (kidding)

BTW, the Rutgers guys are talking about you talking about them. I'll hang up now and listen.
https://rutgers com/showmsg.asp?fid=642&tid=179334976&mid=179334976&sid=988&style=2

Well, then this is a good time to remind them that they're an athletic punch line.

We created a football program overnight and basically made up their century-head start immediately. What were we - like 6-6 against them since we moved up?

Of course, we won two of the last three, so there's that.

As for the rest of their athletic department, I guess they're good at cashing checks, losing games and generating WTF headlines.

 

[pj]

Here's a functional link: http://rvls.co/1MbuBlj

What's amusing is they think their football program got them into the B1G (Il Lusciato: "They don't understand that its football. That's why we are here, and they never will be."). What conference has ever thought to themselves, we have to have Rutgers football?