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This may not be bad for us. The B1G has to take care of this mess, but also it can't afford to let a solid program with great support get away from the neighborhood while it does its triage on Rutroh.
 

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How embarrassing. I like Nicky from Newark and don't really resent Rutgers but how does a no talent, no ambition school get a bid ahead of us? What is wrong with the picture when they get a bid because of TV sets? Man I am torqued.
 
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Ever read how people who win the lottery often find themselves with more financial problems than they had before? Sounds familiar.
 
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Ever read how people who win the lottery often find themselves with more financial problems than they had before? Sounds familiar.
Good analogy, but I see it as even worse. It's more like the professional athlete that works his butt off in the gym, roids up to get even bigger, gets the big 10 year contract and then puts it on cruise control.

RU had the population/location that the B1G wanted. Then they pumped up football a bit and announced plans to improve the RAC or build a new one (something like that). They never intended for those renovations to occur. They just needed to not f' up the invitation. Now they can just cash their checks and hope to catch some lightning in a bottle every couple decades.

Unlike your example, the lottery money will always be there for another fix.
 

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Making Pernetti the scapegoat worked for the Barchi, and Barchi is Christie's guy. Probably good for the university in the long run, but miserable for athletics in the near term.
 
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Making Pernetti the scapegoat worked for the Barchi, and Barchi is Christie's guy. Probably good for the university in the long run, but miserable for athletics in the near term.

Rutgers is going to have a mess with Barchi in the next year or so when his security blanket leaves Trenton for a doomed attempt to run for President (or gets thrown out has half the state now wants). Barchi's expertise is running a major university medical schools (doctor, medical professor, U Penn Provost, Medical school president), which Rutgers now has; but he lacks this skills and experience leading a an entire national research university with a P5 athletic program. This weakness will bite Rutgers big time.
 
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You knew it'd be bad when Hermann's tenure started in scandal.

But my god, she's an absolute duck*ing joke.
 

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How embarrassing. I like Nicky from Newark and don't really resent Rutgers but how does a no talent, no ambition school get a bid ahead of us? What is wrong with the picture when they get a bid because of TV sets? Man I am torqued.

I think you answered your own question.
 
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The State of New Jersey is going bankrupt. The state transportation fund is basically empty; but, Christie refuses to raise the gas tax (one of the lowest in the nation) because it will hurt his White House dream. Now, yesterday the State Supreme Court ruled that the state has to payback the $1.57 BILLION that the state cut from the pension fund to close last years budget gap. No one has a clue where that money is coming from.

http://www.northjersey.com/news/ana...-drained-and-state-lawmakers-blamed-1.1108657

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/02/judge_rules_christie_must_make_15b_pension_payment.html

Thus, in turn, the state I desperate to reduce funding to Rutgers (and all other higher education schools in the state). But, Rutgers is on the hook for $75 to $100 million for it's acquisition of UMDNJ and there is tremendous internal pressure to eliminate the 'subsidy that Rutgers pays to its athletic programs.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/20...iversity_makes_history_with_umdnj_merger.html

Thus, all of the money from the B1G and even their recent, successful endowment campaign is going to be used to pay-off that UMDNJ debt reduce the subsidy, and if any money is left, keep the golden goose, the football program, afloat. Everyone else within Rutgers athletics is SOL. The RAC is not being replaced. The Olympic sports are screwed. And the B1G can forget having a Rutgers ice hockey team anytime soon.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2015/01/rutgers_eclipses_1_billion_fundraising_goal.html
 

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Rutgers is going to have a mess with Barchi in the next year or so when his security blanket leaves Trenton for a doomed attempt to run for President (or gets thrown out has half the state now wants). Barchi's expertise is running a major university medical schools (doctor, medical professor, U Penn Provost, Medical school president), which Rutgers now has; but he lacks this skills and experience leading a an entire national research university with a P5 athletic program. This weakness will bite Rutgers big time.
His mandate is to finish the merger. After that he can go.
 

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The State of New Jersey is going bankrupt. The state transportation fund is basically empty; but, Christie refuses to raise the gas tax (one of the lowest in the nation) because it will hurt his White House dream.
“Why did the Transportation Trust Fund fail? Because legislators are irresponsible, and governors rewarded that irresponsibility,” Kean said. “It looked to them like a cash cow. They didn’t look to the future.” The trust fund failed because the LEGISLATURE spent it down buying a lot of votes without the need to find current funding. The way to curb that excess is not to keep giving them an unlimited source of revenue. Think of it like a guy who goes into bankruptcy. Probably best not to give him an unsecured $100k credit line.
http://www.northjersey.com/news/analysis-n-j-transportation-trust-fund-drained-and-state-lawmakers-blamed-1.1108657

Now, yesterday the State Supreme Court ruled that the state has to payback the $1.57 BILLION that the state cut from the pension fund to close last years budget gap. No one has a clue where that money is coming from.

"This budget was passed by the Legislature and signed by the governor with a pension payment. The governor will continue to work on a practical solution to New Jersey's pension and health benefits problems while he appeals this decision to a higher court where we are confident the judgment of New Jersey's elected officials will be vindicated." Keep in mind that the budget, which did include a pension payment, was passed by the Democratic Legislature. Whether or not you agree with the funding decision, the passage of the budget was bi-partisan. One could argue since the Dems have the votes to block anything the blame (or credit) for the budget can fairly be laid at the legislatures door step. It is probably best to withhold judgment until after Christie's budget speech tomorrow and until after the State appeal on the lower court decision is heard.
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/02/judge_rules_christie_must_make_15b_pension_payment.html

Thus, in turn, the state I desperate to reduce funding to Rutgers (and all other higher education schools in the state). But, Rutgers is on the hook for $75 to $100 million for it's acquisition of UMDNJ and there is tremendous internal pressure to eliminate the 'subsidy that Rutgers pays to its athletic programs.
In an instant, Rutgers will become a 65,000-student school with a $3 billion budget. It will rank among the top 25 research universities in the nation, with more research spending than Harvard, Yale or Northwestern University. I wasn't in favor of the merger, but it is an aggressive move that positions RU to improve it's stature. Time will tell if the merger will pay off. The Robert Wood Johnston Foundation has pledged $12.5M toward (LINK) covering the estimated $76.3 million of merger costs, so that will offset the cost a bit. Barchi believes that he can fund the rest by deferring other costs. I'm skeptical but we'll see. Down the road the merger university should run more efficiently.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/20...iversity_makes_history_with_umdnj_merger.html

Thus, all of the money from the B1G and even their recent, successful endowment campaign is going to be used to pay-off that UMDNJ debt reduce the subsidy, and if any money is left, keep the golden goose, the football program, afloat. Everyone else within Rutgers athletics is SOL. The RAC is not being replaced. The Olympic sports are screwed. And the B1G can forget having a Rutgers ice hockey team anytime soon.

"Rutgers University, which long has lagged peers in fundraising, surpassed the $1 billion goal of the most ambitious fundraising plan in the school's history, the university will announce this morning. The campaign raised more than $400 million for faculty and research and brought in more than $300 million in new endowment. At the same time, more than $100 million in athletics funding was raised, with a big spike in donations as Rutgers began play in the Big Ten Conference" Tough to read that as bad news.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2015/01/rutgers_eclipses_1_billion_fundraising_goal.html
 
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Snooki being Snooki: flashing her ample endowment for the B1G contract, then laying out in the SUN while doing nothing & living off of the Royalties.
 

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If the Big Ten thought they were going to inspire Rutgers not to be Rutgers, they were wrong.

From the article, it looks like maybe you should've invited NJIT...they're putting up a new hoop facility and they've already shown they're better at beating Big Ten teams anyway.

And what, exactly, is your point. Sounds like the GEICO commercial...Everyone knows that.
 

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Snooki being Snooki: flashing her ample endowment for the B1G contract, then laying out in the SUN while doing nothing & living off of the Royalties.

Well said. RU delivered what they said they'd deliver: cable boxes. Now they can do what they do best - coast as a teat sucking bottom feeder for decades. The cable boxes that Cable Box U delivered won't be tuning in to watch them play...they're tuning in to watch the opponents who play against CBU.
 
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Rutgers does what it was intended to do.......

1. Bring in $$$$ for the B1G by expanding the B1G into the largest media market in the nation.

2. Provides an outlet for B1G sports to be played in the NYC metro for the massive population of B1G alumni in the metro area.

3. Provides fertile recruiting territory for the rest of the B1G.


That was all the B1G ever asked of Rutgers, with the first point being the most prominent, and they delivered.
 
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This may not be bad for us. The B1G has to take care of this mess, but also it can't afford to let a solid program with great support get away from the neighborhood while it does its triage on Rutroh.
Seriously, did anyone really think the B1G's plan to conquer the NYC market began and ended with Rutgers? Not only is Delany not that stupid, nobody is (except possibly Swofford). The B1G always knew it would need more guns aimed at Manhattan and that meant us. The plan has been, is, and will continue to be the northeast. We were part of that plan from week one and we're still part of that plan.

The B1G needs two marquee rivalries to sell their two-region vision: one for NYC and one for Balto/DC. It's us and Rutgers for NYC by default as much as anything else. Who else could it be? Neither of use are exactly "shovel ready" at the moment. So it'll take some work to get us there. So what? The easy part of realignment has already been done. It's either nurture us along or abandon a northeast strategy because any other pairing besides UConn and Rutgers is an order of magnitude more difficult than we are. "B-b-but it won't happen next month." Yeah, you got me there.

Maryland was something of a basket-case itself when it accepted an offer to join the B1G. They were bleeding red ink and cutting programs. They didn't leave the ACC because they were fat, dumb, and happy. They left because the B1G had a vision and they bought into it. Initially, I thought UVA would be the most likely rival recruited. More recently, I've begun to think VaTech is the B1G's target. Like us, they lack AAU status but, also like us, they seem to be working toward it. The B1G appears to want to align itself as institutions engaged in science/technology/engineering/technology. What says STEM better than a college with "Tech" in its name? UVA, on the other hand, seems more interested in doilies and tea at Downton Abbey than dirt under their fingernails at a power plant.
 
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Seriously, did anyone really think the B1G's plan to conquer the NYC market began and ended with Rutgers? Not only is Delany not that stupid, nobody is (except possibly Swofford). The B1G always knew it would need more guns aimed at Manhattan and that meant us. The plan has been, is, and will continue to be the northeast. We were part of that plan from week one and we're still part of that plan.

The B1G needs two marquee rivalries to sell their two-region vision: one for NYC and one for Balto/DC. It's us and Rutgers for NYC by default as much as anything else. Who else could it be? Neither of use are exactly "shovel ready" at the moment. So it'll take some work to get us there. So what? The easy part of realignment has already been done. It's either nurture us along or abandon a northeast strategy because any other pairing besides UConn and Rutgers is an order of magnitude more difficult than we are. "B-b-but it won't happen next month." Yeah, you got me there.

Maryland was something of a basket-case itself when it accepted an offer to join the B1G. They were bleeding red ink and cutting programs. They didn't leave the ACC because they were fat, dumb, and happy. They left because the B1G had a vision and they bought into it. Initially, I thought UVA would be the most likely rival recruited. More recently, I've begun to think VaTech is the B1G's target. Like us, they lack AAU status but, also like us, they seem to be working toward it. The B1G appears to want to align itself as institutions engaged in science/technology/engineering/technology. What says STEM better than a college with "Tech" in its name? UVA, on the other hand, seems more interested in doilies and tea at Downton Abbey than dirt under their fingernails at a power plant.

A lot depends on if the B1G expands, and the only way that will happen is if some other conference expands to 16, ahem, SEC. It could very well be tha5 ni one expands.
 
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Maryland was something of a basket-case itself when it accepted an offer to join the B1G. They were bleeding red ink and cutting programs. They didn't leave the ACC because they were fat, dumb, and happy. They left because the B1G had a vision and they bought into it. Initially, I thought UVA would be the most likely rival recruited. More recently, I've begun to think VaTech is the B1G's target. Like us, they lack AAU status but, also like us, they seem to be working toward it. The B1G appears to want to align itself as institutions engaged in science/technology/engineering/technology. What says STEM better than a college with "Tech" in its name? UVA, on the other hand, seems more interested in doilies and tea at Downton Abbey than dirt under their fingernails at a power plant.


Interestingly enough, some Rutgers fans maintain that their school was the prized property in the B1G's recent expansion while Maryland was the afterthought. It's laughable.

Every Big Ten school has a top-50 10-year Directors Cup average finish except Iowa and Rutgers. Iowa's average finish is 54 while RU's is 99. Rutgers' overall athletic program isn't much better than MAAC level. Their facilities are woeful, generally speaking.

Football, women's basketball, and maybe wrestling won't embarrass itself, but their other programs are all really bad. It'll be quite some time until Rutgers wins a Big Ten title in any sport. For perspective, it's only February and Maryland has already won three Big Ten championships, half of Rutgers' all-time conference title total.
 
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