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[WestHartHusk]

His point, I think, is that UConn is the only school that has ever jumped 1AA to 1A (FBS) and played its first conference season in a top level conference. It was lucky...the last bit of luck the program got.

That was not "lucky". We founded the conference, helped keep it together in the early years, and were a large part of its rise to be best basketball conference in the country. We got called up because we helped create it and had demonstrated our ability to increase the value of the conference - IT WAS NOT LUCK.

 

[HuskyHawk]

That was not "lucky". We founded the conference, helped keep it together in the early years, and were a large part of its rise to be best basketball conference in the country. We got called up because we helped create it and had demonstrated our ability to increase the value of the conference - IT WAS NOT LUCK.

It was incredible good fortune created for the football program by the basketball program. No other school has ever had it happen. As a result we came to feel entitled to be in a "BCS", now P5 conference, though no other football program with our short pedigree was ever invited to one. From a purely football perspective it is impossible to argue that we "deserved" a spot in a power conference. It was lucky for the football program. Since then our luck has dried up. It is no accident that every other school in the Big East football conference when we joined, is now in a P5 conference.

 

[jostar1]

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 1h 1 hour ago
New NBA TV 9 year contract with ESPN-TNT tripled in value over current TV contract. New Big 10 TV contract for 2016 is now up on block....

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 1h 1 hour ago
New Big 10 Tier 1 contract is going to at least double over current contract. The ripple effect from this new contract will be substantial.

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 1h 1 hour ago
Delany will use BTN as leverage in negotiations. It's his hammer and ESPN will be the nail. FOX and ESPN will split....night games will grow

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 59m 59 minutes ago
Because of the timing of the new Big 10 TV contract....expansion to 16 schools before 2017 can't be ruled out......it just can't. However..

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 58m 58 minutes ago
any Big 10 expansion before 2019-20 will need to include Big Brand football school to max out Big 10 football value during TV negotiations

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 57m 57 minutes ago
The epic question on Conference Realignment/Expansion is what does Disney decide to do? Pay $$$ for continued split Tier 1 Big 10 football

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 56m 56 minutes ago
...or does it back away from Big 10 football and go all-in on ACC network?. Or does Disney do both, pay $ for split B1G and invest in ACCN

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 54m 54 minutes ago
But either way the next B1G TV contract is going to be staggering....and pressure will mount on ACC Commissioner to come up with $ for ACC

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 52m 52 minutes ago
@CTMike78 UCONN will not be a part of any Big 10 tier 1 negotiations with "TV"....maybe no schools will be...but after new TV contract...

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 51m 51 minutes ago
@CTMike78 ....has been completed UCONN could be a part of expansion in 2019/20. The timing for UCONN/B1G is not now....but UCONN is rising

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 47m 47 minutes ago
@CTMike78 The value that UCONN would bring to the Big 10 is Research $...and BTN Basketball rising TV ad money. If...and its a big if...if..

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 46m 46 minutes ago
@CTMike78 the Big 10 does choose to expand during/right after new TV contract is finished it will be about adding an "Oklahoma or VA Tech"

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 45m 45 minutes ago
@CTMike78 Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the Big 10 is going to land OU or VA Tech...but if Big 10 expands during new TV contract it...

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 44m 44 minutes ago
@CTMike78 will be about Football brand....to increase the Tier 1 contract during negotiations. UCONN value is after the new contract..BTN$

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 42m 42 minutes ago
I just used VA TECH and Oklahoma as examples in what Big 10 would expand with in 2016/17. Do not believe it will and can occur. UCONN...

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 42m 42 minutes ago
@flugempire UCONN value to Big 10 will never be about football and Tier 1 contract....but increase BTN ad money...major basketball content

 

[Ldandy]

for some reason, when you dust of the stains of G5 affiliation and smear on some P5 lipstick, the media can't tell the difference. case in point is the immediate pumping up of and inclusion of Rutgers Football in some of the mainstream media as if they in the national discussion.
the whole college fb scene is one massive circle jerk between the media, the conferences, the individual schools, the fans and the media.

I'm not questioning the strength of Cincy or UCONN vs Rutgers or any former G5 Team. I'm questioning what ESPN's motivation would be to facilitate these teams joining a conference where they would have to pay them 20 + million a year when they already own their rights for 2+. I just don't see ESPN pushing for this. Especially when they already hold a huge stake in the Big 12's most valuable property regardless of what conference they are affiliated with.

 

[Ldandy]

It was incredible good fortune created for the football program by the basketball program. No other school has ever had it happen. As a result we came to feel entitled to be in a "BCS", now P5 conference, though no other football program with our short pedigree was ever invited to one. From a purely football perspective it is impossible to argue that we "deserved" a spot in a power conference. It was lucky for the football program. Since then our luck has dried up. It is no accident that every other school in the Big East football conference when we joined, is now in a P5 conference.

What about USF? Their Football program was an infant as far as P5 Conference teams go, and they were invited to the old Big East. Sure it is not common place, but it did happen somewhere other than UCONN.

 

[HuskyHawk]

What about USF? Their Football program was an infant as far as P5 Conference teams go, and they were invited to the old Big East. Sure it is not common place, but it did happen somewhere other than UCONN.

They were in CUSA first, and they got lucky that the Big East got raided. And they won't be getting an invite to a better league. Nobody else played their first league games in a BCS/P5 conference after making the jump, and nobody else ever will.

I only mention it to highlight the difference between how UConn sees itself (one of the big boys) and how others see us (an unworthy upstart that got a gift invite to a BCS conference due to basketball, not football).

 

[Ldandy]

They were in CUSA first, and they got lucky that the Big East got raided. And they won't be getting an invite to a better league. Nobody else played their first league games in a BCS/P5 conference after making the jump, and nobody else ever will.

I only mention it to highlight the difference between how UConn sees itself (one of the big boys) and how others see us (an unworthy upstart that got a gift invite to a BCS conference due to basketball, not football)


Got ya. I misunderstood you initially. I thought you were claiming that no team with a short history as a 1A Football School except UCONN was ever invited to a BCS Conference.

As to your second point, I for one don't believe that UCONN was gifted anything. Was the school later to the party than they should have been? Probably. Gifted admission? Nah. You guys were a cornerstone of The Big East in basketball and Olympic Sports. When you made the move up to 1A Football, why the Hell wouldn't you expect to play in YOUR conference? Anyone arguing otherwise is either a hater or brain damaged.

To me UCONN is too valuable of a property to be kept out of the big leagues long term. You are one of the few large Northeast Public Universities that match high level academics and athletics currently on the outside looking in. Your strong following in media markets that carry great value for advertisers can't go unnoticed forever. Hopefully you get your shot sooner than later.

 

[CL82]

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 1h 1 hour ago
New NBA TV 9 year contract with ESPN-TNT tripled in value over current TV contract. New Big 10 TV contract for 2016 is now up on block....

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 1h 1 hour ago
New Big 10 Tier 1 contract is going to at least double over current contract. The ripple effect from this new contract will be substantial.

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 1h 1 hour ago
Delany will use BTN as leverage in negotiations. It's his hammer and ESPN will be the nail. FOX and ESPN will split....night games will grow

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 59m 59 minutes ago
Because of the timing of the new Big 10 TV contract....expansion to 16 schools before 2017 can't be ruled out.it just can't. However..

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 58m 58 minutes ago
any Big 10 expansion before 2019-20 will need to include Big Brand football school to max out Big 10 football value during TV negotiations

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 57m 57 minutes ago
The epic question on Conference Realignment/Expansion is what does Disney decide to do? Pay $ for continued split Tier 1 Big 10 football

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 56m 56 minutes ago
...or does it back away from Big 10 football and go all-in on ACC network?. Or does Disney do both, pay $ for split B1G and invest in ACCN

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 54m 54 minutes ago
But either way the next B1G TV contract is going to be staggering....and pressure will mount on ACC Commissioner to come up with $ for ACC

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 52m 52 minutes ago
@CTMike78 UCONN will not be a part of any Big 10 tier 1 negotiations with "TV"....maybe no schools will be...but after new TV contract...

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 51m 51 minutes ago
@CTMike78 ....has been completed UCONN could be a part of expansion in 2019/20. The timing for UCONN/B1G is not now....but UCONN is rising

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 47m 47 minutes ago
@CTMike78 The value that UCONN would bring to the Big 10 is Research $...and BTN Basketball rising TV ad money. If...and its a big if...if..

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 46m 46 minutes ago
@CTMike78 the Big 10 does choose to expand during/right after new TV contract is finished it will be about adding an "Oklahoma or VA Tech"

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 45m 45 minutes ago
@CTMike78 Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the Big 10 is going to land OU or VA Tech...but if Big 10 expands during new TV contract it...

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 44m 44 minutes ago
@CTMike78 will be about Football brand....to increase the Tier 1 contract during negotiations. UCONN value is after the new contract..BTN$

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 42m 42 minutes ago
I just used VA TECH and Oklahoma as examples in what Big 10 would expand with in 2016/17. Do not believe it will and can occur. UCONN...

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 42m 42 minutes ago
@flugempire UCONN value to Big 10 will never be about football and Tier 1 contract....but increase BTN ad money...major basketball content

I'm not so sure that UConn doesn't add value to the ESPN deal. Our basketball is valuable content that ESPN would want. Match us up with the traditional B1G powers and you've got guaranteed ratings. Now woman's BB, hockey, baseball and soccer are more about BTN content.

 

[WestHartHusk]

It was incredible good fortune created for the football program by the basketball program. No other school has ever had it happen. As a result we came to feel entitled to be in a "BCS", now P5 conference, though no other football program with our short pedigree was ever invited to one. From a purely football perspective it is impossible to argue that we "deserved" a spot in a power conference. It was lucky for the football program. Since then our luck has dried up. It is no accident that every other school in the Big East football conference when we joined, is now in a P5 conference.

I still don't think you know what lucky means.

 

[Kolumbo]

That was not "lucky". We founded the conference, helped keep it together in the early years, and were a large part of its rise to be best basketball conference in the country. We got called up because we helped create it and had demonstrated our ability to increase the value of the conference - IT WAS NOT LUCK.

It was not luck that UCONN got called up to join the football conference after it helped establish the Big East as one of the best athletic conferences. It was pure luck that the B.E. happened to be a BCS conference and that UCONN Football was able to join with far less history than many other proven programs such as BYU and the other programs from the MAC/MWAC/CUSA. That is not a knock on UCONN. It is a shame that the basketball schools ruined it for the football schools which drove the Miami's to leave. Had they been able to grow the football conference, Miami, VPI, and WVU would have seen better bowls.

 

[HuskyHawk]

It was not luck that UCONN got called up to join the football conference after it helped establish the Big East as one of the best athletic conferences. It was pure luck that the B.E. happened to be a BCS conference and that UCONN Football was able to join with far less history than many other proven programs such as BYU and the other programs from the MAC/MWAC/CUSA. That is not a knock on UCONN. It is a shame that the basketball schools ruined it for the football schools which drove the Miami's to leave. Had they been able to grow the football conference, Miami, VPI, and WVU would have seen better bowls.

Yes, that's the point.

As for the definition of luck:
a : a force that brings good fortune or adversityb : the events or circumstances that operate for or against an individual
I think we had some luck that our basketball league started a football league and became a good football league, and that the rules allowed us to make the jump straight to it. UConn was smart to see how advantageous that was and took advantage.

 

[Ha Who]

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Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 23m23 minutes ago
New NBA TV 9 year contract with ESPN-TNT tripled in value over current TV contract. New Big 10 TV contract for 2016 is now up on block....

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 22m22 minutes ago
New Big 10 Tier 1 contract is going to at least double over current contract. The ripple effect from this new contract will be substantial.

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 21m21 minutes ago
Delany will use BTN as leverage in negotiations. It's his hammer and ESPN will be the nail. FOX and ESPN will split....night games will grow

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 20m20 minutes ago
Because of the timing of the new Big 10 TV contract....expansion to 16 schools before 2017 can't be ruled out.it just can't. However..

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 19m19 minutes ago
any Big 10 expansion before 2019-20 will need to include Big Brand football school to max out Big 10 football value during TV negotiations

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 18m18 minutes ago
The epic question on Conference Realignment/Expansion is what does Disney decide to do? Pay $ for continued split Tier 1 Big 10 football

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 16m16 minutes ago
...or does it back away from Big 10 football and go all-in on ACC network?. Or does Disney do both, pay $ for split B1G and invest in ACCN

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 15m15 minutes ago
But either way the next B1G TV contract is going to be staggering....and pressure will mount on ACC Commissioner to come up with $ for ACC

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 11m11 minutes ago
@CTMike78 UCONN will not be a part of any Big 10 tier 1 negotiations with "TV"....maybe no schools will be...but after new TV contract...

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 10m10 minutes ago
@CTMike78 ....has been completed UCONN could be a part of expansion in 2019/20. The timing for UCONN/B1G is not now....but UCONN is rising

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 6m6 minutes ago
@CTMike78 The value that UCONN would bring to the Big 10 is Research $...and BTN Basketball rising TV ad money. If...and its a big if...if..

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 5m5 minutes ago
@CTMike78 the Big 10 does choose to expand during/right after new TV contract is finished it will be about adding an "Oklahoma or VA Tech"

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 4m4 minutes ago
@CTMike78 Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the Big 10 is going to land OU or VA Tech...but if Big 10 expands during new TV contract it...

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 3m3 minutes ago
@CTMike78 will be about Football brand....to increase the Tier 1 contract during negotiations. UCONN value is after the new contract..BTN$

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 1m1 minute ago
I just used VA TECH and Oklahoma as examples in what Big 10 would expand with in 2016/17. Do not believe it will and can occur. UCONN...

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2m2 minutes ago
@flugempire UCONN value to Big 10 will never be about football and Tier 1 contract....but increase BTN ad money...major basketball content

What is this doing in this thread?

 

[jostar1]

ucf primetimer ‏@knightbengal · Oct 3
@theDudeofWV @Cincy_Craig
our favorite yoda says Ucf and cincy are locks

Christopher Lambert
‏@theDudeofWV @knightbengal
Nope. No locks. No expansion yet.

Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV · 56m 56 minutes ago
Nothing has changed regarding (the lack of) Big 12 expansion.

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV @knightbengal @Cincy_Craig
I’m certain Yoda & M HVER are the same person.

 

[businesslawyer]

ucf primetimer ‏@knightbengal · Oct 3
@theDudeofWV @Cincy_Craig
our favorite yoda says Ucf and cincy are locks

Christopher Lambert
‏@theDudeofWV @knightbengal
Nope. No locks. No expansion yet.

Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV · 56m 56 minutes ago
Nothing has changed regarding (the lack of) Big 12 expansion.

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV @knightbengal @Cincy_Craig
I’m certain Yoda & M HVER are the same person.

Yoda and MHVER the same person? How could one person have that much combined intelligence and credibility?

 

[upstater]

It was incredible good fortune created for the football program by the basketball program. No other school has ever had it happen. As a result we came to feel entitled to be in a "BCS", now P5 conference, though no other football program with our short pedigree was ever invited to one. From a purely football perspective it is impossible to argue that we "deserved" a spot in a power conference. It was lucky for the football program. Since then our luck has dried up. It is no accident that every other school in the Big East football conference when we joined, is now in a P5 conference.

It's a hard argument to make when you consider that the bball schools decided to give the football schools a heave-ho back in the early 1990s over the inclusion of Miami and Virginia Tech as football. UConn saved the conference back then. If it weren't for UConn, there wouldn't have been a BE football conference to speak of. It wouldn't even exist. I'm not sure what would have happened. Miami would have found a landing sot. But who knows about VT and Syracuse and BC and Pitt. No one knows what would have happened to these schools. VT spent the 1990s feasting on the BE minions while Miami was in a down cycle. This elevated VTs football bigtime.

If no BE football, what happens to all these schools?

 

[Ha Who]

For your entertainment

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[CL82]

For your entertainment

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@MxxHxxverxx319m19 minutes ago
I'm hearing lots of whispers that Texas and Fox might be planning a BIG mutiny. A very very lucrative mutiny.

 

[upstater]

About Flugaur, how in the world is Connecticut only relevant for ad dollars. That flies in the face of what SNY did in the state with tier 3 UConn sports. With a $1 a household surcharge for UConn sports and the move to basic from the sports tier, UConn proved its value right there.

 

[businesslawyer]

It's a hard argument to make when you consider that the bball schools decided to give the football schools a heave-ho back in the early 1990s over the inclusion of Miami and Virginia Tech as football. UConn saved the conference back then. If it weren't for UConn, there wouldn't have been a BE football conference to speak of. It wouldn't even exist. I'm not sure what would have happened. Miami would have found a landing sot. But who knows about VT and Syracuse and BC and Pitt. No one knows what would have happened to these schools. VT spent the 1990s feasting on the BE minions while Miami was in a down cycle. This elevated VTs football bigtime.

If no BE football, what happens to all these schools?

They would have left the Big East and formed their own conference. Staying independent wasn't an option, and no other league was rushing into the Northeast.

 

[B1GALUM]

Tuxedo Yoda@TuxedoYoda · 22m 22 minutes ago
Part 1: Huge scoop. Was told Miami regrets signing ACC GOR. Lack of $ really hurts their ability to eat Golden's contract & hire new staff.

Tuxedo Yoda@TuxedoYoda · 22m 22 minutes ago
Part 2: Miami was told if they came to Big 12 with UCF, they would make a lot more $ and increase for B12 teams as well - all boats rise.

Tuxedo Yoda@TuxedoYoda · 21m 21 minutes ago
Part 3: Miami exploring a way to get out of ACC GOR.

 

[huskypantz]

If Miami saw dollar signs, why would it be working with UCF to move to the B12? Why not find another ACC dance partner who also wants to get paid?

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Does anyone really want Miami right now?

 

[zls44]

About Flugaur, how in the world is Connecticut only relevant for ad dollars. That flies in the face of what SNY did in the state with tier 3 UConn sports. With a $1 a household surcharge for UConn sports and the move to basic from the sports tier, UConn proved its value right there.

No offense, up, but you REALLY overvalue the SNY/UConn impact. Reminds me of people arguing one off-hand RGIII comment about the Rent.

 

[Hoophound]

No offense, up, but you REALLY overvalue the SNY/UConn impact. Reminds me of people arguing one off-hand RGIII comment about the Rent.

It's actually very relevant. It is the only tangible thing we have to look at in regard to a UConn media deal that isn't clouded by Tulane and Tulsa being part of it.

 

[billybud]

If Miami saw dollar signs, why would it be working with UCF to move to the B12? Why not find another ACC dance partner who also wants to get paid?

It was Yoda, who a day or so ago, called:

Tuxedo Yoda @TuxedoYoda · Oct 3
Locks are Cinci & UCF......lots of conversation regarding UConn, ECU, USF, Memphis.....you can forget BYU & Boise St.

These guys just spout.....