New Mexico State and Idaho's Sun Belt Future

[Drew]

Mike Prater ‏@IDS_Prater 2h2 hours ago
Commish Karl Benson on the Vandals' future in the Sun Belt: "This is a performance-based business and performance counts.''


Troy Schulte‏@TroySchulteADG
Benson leaving the door open for a SBC without Idaho and New Mexico State as football members. Agreements are up for renewal after this yr.


Edited to add in the NMSU content as well.

Uh oh. There is no way that Idaho can survive as an Independent in FBS football. They might be the first one to drop down from FBS to FCS.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Mike Prater ‏@IDS_Prater 2h2 hours ago
Commish Karl Benson on the Vandals' future in the Sun Belt: "This is a performance-based business and performance counts.''


Troy Schulte‏@TroySchulteADG
Benson leaving the door open for a SBC without Idaho and New Mexico State as football members. Agreements are up for renewal after this yr.


Edited to add in the NMSU content as well.

Uh oh. There is no way that Idaho can survive as an Independent in FBS football. They might be the first one to drop down from FBS to FCS.

Maybe the best for them. Idaho can go back to playing FCS power Montana, E Washintgon, etc. Not everyone is going to surive this.

 

[nd73]

Idaho to the ACC in all sports but Football

 

[Fishy]

Almost sounds like they liked the cut of Eastern Kentucky's jib and are trying to create a little space to get the conference back into Kentucky. Those two schools have weird agreements with the conference and I don't think they should plan to be part of it after 2017.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

So is being hundreds of miles from its conference opponents good or bad?

 

[Drew]

Almost sounds like they liked the cut of Eastern Kentucky's jib and are trying to create a little space to get the conference back into Kentucky. Those two schools have weird agreements with the conference and I don't think they should plan to be part of it after 2017.

EKU +NMSU full members a possibility? NMSU would be great for their basketball (which would rise to 14) bringing NCAA tournament credits/money to the league

 

[coachcap]

New Mexico State is a half hour drive from El Paso. When I toured their campus a few years ago when I was there for a wedding, my thought was that they should be conference mates with UTEP. Then reality hit me when I thought about the distance between the campuses of UMass & UConn.

 

[ThetaZoo]

New Mexico State is a half hour drive from El Paso. When I toured their campus a few years ago when I was there for a wedding, my thought was that they should be conference mates with UTEP. Then reality hit me when I thought about the distance between the campuses of UMass & UConn.

If you want to see sanity look at UConn's Field Hockey schedule. They don't have to get on a plane for any road game except Georgetown in Washington, DC and even then they could bus it there if they wanted.

http://www.uconnhuskies.com/sports/w-fieldh/sched/conn-w-fieldh-sched.html

 

[NYUConn]

If you want to see sanity look at UConn's Field Hockey schedule. They don't have to get on a plane for any road game except Georgetown in Washington, DC and even then they could bus it there if they wanted.

http://www.uconnhuskies.com/sports/w-fieldh/sched/conn-w-fieldh-sched.html

Well and Northwestern to open the season. But I think you were just referring to conference schedules, right?

 

[businesslawyer]

So is being hundreds of miles from its conference opponents good or bad?

OMFG. Our conference does not work for us geographically. I am so appreciative you are pointing this out to us. I just wish you had made that clear earlier.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

If you want to see sanity look at UConn's Field Hockey schedule. They don't have to get on a plane for any road game except Georgetown in Washington, DC and even then they could bus it there if they wanted.

http://www.uconnhuskies.com/sports/w-fieldh/sched/conn-w-fieldh-sched.html

There are a lot more D1 Field Hockey teams in the Northeast than there are FBS Football teams (9 - Pitt, Penn St, Temple, Rutgers, Buffalo, Army, UConn, BC, UMass).

 

[thatguyed]

Coastal Carolina (Myrtle Beach) joining the SB for everything except football next year and football the following year adds an east coast school on the rise. And in the sub belt no less! Looks like they're proactively replacing Idaho and NMSU already.

 

[UConnKev]

New Mexico State is a half hour drive from El Paso. When I toured their campus a few years ago when I was there for a wedding, my thought was that they should be conference mates with UTEP. Then reality hit me when I thought about the distance between the campuses of UMass & UConn.

What were your thoughts on NMSU's campus? Be careful what you say, I am a alum!

 

[coachcap]

What were your thoughts on NMSU's campus? Be careful what you say, I am a alum!

Liked it. That sombrero shaped stadium was cool. Campus reminded me a little of UConn's campus. I thought that if I was a resident of Greater El Paso, I'd prefer that campus to UTEP's.

 

[Rocktheworld]

Mike Prater ‏@IDS_Prater 2h2 hours ago
Commish Karl Benson on the Vandals' future in the Sun Belt: "This is a performance-based business and performance counts.''


Troy Schulte‏@TroySchulteADG
Benson leaving the door open for a SBC without Idaho and New Mexico State as football members. Agreements are up for renewal after this yr.


Edited to add in the NMSU content as well.

Uh oh. There is no way that Idaho can survive as an Independent in FBS football. They might be the first one to drop down from FBS to FCS.

Rutgers and Maryland completely and outright destroy that claim.

Markets (and recruiting grounds as well) trump performance. It's performance-based for Idaho and New Mexico State because it's frickin Idaho and New Mexico.

 

[Drew]

Idaho PowerPoint presentation on why they should remain in Sun Belt

http://www.idahostatesman.com/sport...e/BINARY/Idaho's presentation to the Sun Belt

 

[BlueHen]

So is being hundreds of miles from its conference opponents good or bad?

So you're saying that UConn should turn down a B1G or Big XII offer should one be made?

 

[shizzle787]

I could see a number of factors (such as declining to extend these two) as reasons that doom the Sun Belt. I have heard that UL-Monroe and UL-Lafayaette (among other Louisiana schools) could lose accreditation (and thus NCAA status), and another conference (the MAC or C-USA or both) could swoop in and steal 2-4 schools in an effort to leave the remaining schools stranded (because 4-6 schools is not enough for an FBS conference) as independents or forced to drop down to FCS. The G5 could become the G4.

 

[huskypantz]

Idaho PowerPoint presentation on why they should remain in Sun Belt

http://www.idahostatesman.com/sports/college/university-of-idaho/article61092377.ece/BINARY/Idaho's presentation to the Sun Belt

Yikes. Top ten stadium. Really.

 

[MattMang23]

Yikes. Top ten stadium. Really.

It looks like a seventh graders PowerPoint presentation on something. They don't have any meaningful data so they just say "it's fun!!!"

 

[Pudge]

Well ...

Amazingly, the AMERICAN is the clear Number One in the Group of 5. But, then, the MAC beat out the Mountain West. That has to be an embarrassment for that.

 

[businesslawyer]

I could see a number of factors (such as declining to extend these two) as reasons that doom the Sun Belt. I have heard that UL-Monroe and UL-Lafayaette (among other Louisiana schools) could lose accreditation (and thus NCAA status), and another conference (the MAC or C-USA or both) could swoop in and steal 2-4 schools in an effort to leave the remaining schools stranded (because 4-6 schools is not enough for an FBS conference) as independents or forced to drop down to FCS. The G5 could become the G4.

If there is one thing I can guaranty you, not one college football executive is rubbing his palms together and saying "Wow, what can I do to drive a stake through the heart of the Sunbelt."

 

[shizzle787]

If there is one thing I can guaranty you, not one college football executive is rubbing his palms together and saying "Wow, what can I do to drive a stake through the heart of the Sunbelt."

Actually, I could see the other G4s saying that as they would likely get a little more money if the money is split 4 ways instead of 5 (though the P5 will want more as well).

 

[dwalks93]

If there is one thing I can guaranty you, not one college football executive is rubbing his palms together and saying "Wow, what can I do to drive a stake through the heart of the Sunbelt."

Are you familiar with the ACC? They never pass an opportunity to drive a stake through another conference's heart regardless of the long term business ramifications.

Right now Swofford is drawing up his blitzkrieg assault for the Sunbelt...BC is probably leading the frontal wedge.

 

[The Funster]

Are you familiar with the ACC? They never pass an opportunity to drive a stake through another conference's heart regardless of the long term business ramifications.

Right now Swofford is drawing up his blitzkrieg assault for the Sunbelt...BC is probably leading the frontal wedge.

BC: "Maybe we can steal a team we can beat..."