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Seaa Blue said:Never understood this:
You did it wrong:
Despite Carrier
Titan of H-V-A-C
No A/C in Dome
Seaa Blue said:Never understood this:
Also a Connecticut based company.Never understood this:
I thought it was strange too. Spent some time up there and the news, at that time, was that Trane was hired to cool buildings at the NY State Fairgrounds. Carrier's not what it used to be.Never understood this:
Not only that..... Cuse is sorta like a Northwestern "lite" who would probably be bypassed today because its doubledipping in Illinois and not a large flagship or research oriented school nor is Cuse close enough to Toronto. Heck PSU already has central NY covered and here in the Capitol Region they have NO following so why would the NY/NJ region care? Cuse is trending the wrong way for the BTN!!!
BTW I get the impression they opted out of AAU seeing the writing on the wall to save face. Anyway Dayooper..point taken.
FYI UConn is about half the distance to MSG that Syracuse is.Syracuse is geographically closer to Cleveland than NYC.
Rutgers, Maryland and Penn State are all geographically closer to NYC than Syracuse.
Right. Not suggesting athletic $'s are irrelevant (they aren't) but I think in the final analysis it's still research dollars, university prestige, etc., which generally speaking drives the B1G bus. As such I believe B1G would want UVa over Tech. UNC over State (well, before 'it' hit the fan), etc. Furthermore, they love being associated with institutions like John H. I understand B1G is making a push to get Johns Hopkins to join CIC. Lots of research dollars / prestige in that arrangement.I don't buy this--I heard from multiple directions that the very first school B1G offered, before Nebraska, was Vanderbilt.
I suspect that the prime metric--at least then, before anyone knew how the B1G Network thing would turn out--was research $. Don't know that's necessarily changed.
Hard to tell a school's leaning just from board comments....We all know Notre Dame will never join a conference in football...yet the Domer fans yack about it...
I agree that everyone misses regionality, and it takes a while to feel comfortable in a new conference situation...Penn State has taken a couple of decades, as has FSU
I'm not really disputing any of that. The B1G has certainly gained market share in the mid-atlantic and NY area with the UMD and RU additions. My point is simply why stop there? If they could get Syracuse and UConn, they'd have the preeminent hoops matchup in the Northeast as a conference game and have the most popular college program in NY state in addittion to one with a major New England presence and elite hoops pedigree. How much market share would the ACC have in the Northeast with only BC and Pitt if UConn, Cuse, RU, UMD, and PSU were all in the B1G?
CR has absolutely nothing to do with basketball.
Syracuse is geographically closer to Cleveland than NYC.
Rutgers, Maryland and Penn State are all geographically closer to NYC than Syracuse.
And SUNJ, UMCP and PSU are all closer to Washington DC than Virginia Tech, but I can tell you that there are more Tech fans in the DC metro area than any of those not named UMCP... and I'm not certain there aren't more Hokies than Terps. At least I know Terps are highly outnumbered south of the Potomac. I think the same dynamic works in NYC except for SUNJ. In reality, there are more Michigan, ND and Florida fans in NYC than SU or Rutgers.
Another interesting tidbit - Blacksburg VA is closer to Columbus than PSU, UMCP and SUNJ. Also closer to Ann Arbor than Rutgers and almost the same distance to Ann Arbor as UMCP. Blacksburg is also much closer to the Indiana schools when compared to the B1G's eastern members. When looking at OSU's conference foes, only Illinois, Purdue, Indiana, MSU and UM are closer than VT... the rest are farther away from Columbus.
Question: What are your thoughts on VT eventually leaving the ACC for the Big10 of the SEC?
And SUNJ, UMCP and PSU are all closer to Washington DC than Virginia Tech, but I can tell you that there are more Tech fans in the DC metro area than any of those not named UMCP... and I'm not certain there aren't more Hokies than Terps. At least I know Terps are highly outnumbered south of the Potomac. I think the same dynamic works in NYC except for SUNJ. In reality, there are more Michigan, ND and Florida fans in NYC than SU or Rutgers.
Another interesting tidbit - Blacksburg VA is closer to Columbus than PSU, UMCP and SUNJ. Also closer to Ann Arbor than Rutgers and almost the same distance to Ann Arbor as UMCP. Blacksburg is also much closer to the Indiana schools when compared to the B1G's eastern members. When looking at OSU's conference foes, only Illinois, Purdue, Indiana, MSU and UM are closer than VT... the rest are farther away from Columbus. It's a shame every conference seems to cringe at the thought of adding WVU (for the record I don't), but Morgantown would be very close to a bunch of B1G schools and would create automatic football rivalries as they hate everyone they play.
Thanks for your "misinformed" opinions without links on Md and RU on numbers of fans in OUR area. Mich? Fla? really? Doubt VPI has more fans in DC too though i realize their "VPI" popular there. WVU has more fans than VPI anywhere in Md and Jersey/Pennsy area's and probably WV proper? But unlike you I'm no expert.BTW I actually like VT but hopefully all their fan's aren't as arrogant as you?And SUNJ, UMCP and PSU are all closer to Washington DC than Virginia Tech, but I can tell you that there are more Tech fans in the DC metro area than any of those not named UMCP... and I'm not certain there aren't more Hokies than Terps. At least I know Terps are highly outnumbered south of the Potomac. I think the same dynamic works in NYC except for SUNJ. In reality, there are more Michigan, ND and Florida fans in NYC than SU or Rutgers.
Another interesting tidbit - Blacksburg VA is closer to Columbus than PSU, UMCP and SUNJ. Also closer to Ann Arbor than Rutgers and almost the same distance to Ann Arbor as UMCP. Blacksburg is also much closer to the Indiana schools when compared to the B1G's eastern members. When looking at OSU's conference foes, only Illinois, Purdue, Indiana, MSU and UM are closer than VT... the rest are farther away from Columbus. It's a shame every conference seems to cringe at the thought of adding WVU (for the record I don't), but Morgantown would be very close to a bunch of B1G schools and would create automatic football rivalries as they hate everyone they play.
My NJ nephew went there "WVU" and in their house alway's follow and root for them..WV like Duke has followings in NJ ..VT? Not really that I've seen though i do like the school.I for one would be all for WVU to the B1g. I don't typically bring the idea up because I know from a market and academic perspective they are likely a non starter. Personally I'm not as hung up on the AAU Requirement, because it is a bogus argument. We all know ND would get in tomorrow AAU or not. WVU would be a fun rivalry for PSU, OSU, and UMD. People can argue academics all they want, but at the end of the day they would bring juice to both football and basketball.
Didn't the NY Times do a survey on CFB fans in the NYC area a couple yrs ago?And SUNJ, UMCP and PSU are all closer to Washington DC than Virginia Tech, but I can tell you that there are more Tech fans in the DC metro area than any of those not named UMCP... and I'm not certain there aren't more Hokies than Terps. At least I know Terps are highly outnumbered south of the Potomac. I think the same dynamic works in NYC except for SUNJ. In reality, there are more Michigan, ND and Florida fans in NYC than SU or Rutgers.
Another interesting tidbit - Blacksburg VA is closer to Columbus than PSU, UMCP and SUNJ. Also closer to Ann Arbor than Rutgers and almost the same distance to Ann Arbor as UMCP. Blacksburg is also much closer to the Indiana schools when compared to the B1G's eastern members. When looking at OSU's conference foes, only Illinois, Purdue, Indiana, MSU and UM are closer than VT... the rest are farther away from Columbus. It's a shame every conference seems to cringe at the thought of adding WVU (for the record I don't), but Morgantown would be very close to a bunch of B1G schools and would create automatic football rivalries as they hate everyone they play.
Didn't the NY Times do a survey on CFB fans in the NYC area a couple yrs ago?
Yes VT is a player in DC just not near a "dominant" player...but im no expert on the DC area..just that VT doesn't seem to have much juice in NY/NJ from what i can tell.Now WVU a different story..they seem to have a Md/NJ/NY presence...surprised i don't see them on that interactive map since DC/Md is 1 of there strongholds for fans and recruiting.Yes, and it shows that UVA fans are concentrated around Charlotteville while VT fans are indeed a significant player in DC.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/03/upshot/ncaa-football-map.html?_r=0#8,38.538,-75.208
In NYC, I can't find the link; but, I believe the the Top 10 in alphabetical order (since I can't remember the actual ranking) is: 1) Army, 2) Duke, 3) Florida, 4) Michigan, 5) ND, 6) Penn St, 7) Ohio St, 8) Rutgers, 9) Syracuse, 10) UConn.
here it is: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images...tyeight-0919-geocolfootball-NYCTV-blog480.pngYes I couldnt either but i think it said only 1 school "ND" would have been a better add than RU and SU was below UConn even though SU is actually in the state!?!PSU was way up there too. I'm not talking about the bogus interactive which seemed senseless in many cases but an actual survey with numbers.
Thanks for your "misinformed" opinions without links on Md and RU on numbers of fans in OUR area. Mich? Fla? really? Doubt VPI has more fans in DC too though i realize their "VPI" popular there. WVU has more fans than VPI anywhere in Md and Jersey/Pennsy area's and probably WV proper? But unlike you I'm no expert.BTW I actually like VT but hopefully all their fan's aren't as arrogant as you?
Yes VT is a player in DC just not near a "dominant" player...but im no expert on the DC area..just that VT doesn't seem to have much juice in NY/NJ from what i can tell.Now WVU a different story..they seem to have a Md/NJ/NY presence...surprised i don't see them on that interactive map since DC/Md is 1 of there strongholds for fans and recruiting.
I for one would be all for WVU to the B1g. I don't typically bring the idea up because I know from a market and academic perspective they are likely a non starter. Personally I'm not as hung up on the AAU Requirement, because it is a bogus argument. We all know ND would get in tomorrow AAU or not. WVU would be a fun rivalry for PSU, OSU, and UMD. People can argue academics all they want, but at the end of the day they would bring juice to both football and basketball.