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So thought auburn last year. Not sure where the lack of respect for fsu comes from but they are legit
Based on what?
They've beaten one top 20 team. At home. On a questionable call.
So thought auburn last year. Not sure where the lack of respect for fsu comes from but they are legit
Teams that you say are better. I don't think that Alabama is and I would favor FSU over the Miss. teams. See how easy this is? The simple fact is that it's all talk until we can see these teams play one another. And I guess I am old fashioned, but when you're the reigning champion and you have yet to lose a game, I feel like that counts for something. As for the four team playoff? I say add more teams, bump it to eight and make it work for everyone to have a chance.
I clearly disagree with people that last year matters. The rosters churn 25% plus every year. Do you favor UCF over Baylor these days?
The objective evidence and the markets would disagree with you on who would be favored, but you are entitled to whatever opinion you like.
I don't think you understand my point about "last year". This isn't Baylor, UCF, etc...it's a championship team, with a championship quarterback. That makes a difference in my opinion. Does it make them invincible? Of course not, far from it. But if in one game, you didn't favor Winston over the other quarterbacks, then I'm not sure what to think. I don't like him, I don't like them, but I have to give it to them right now. Now if you asked me who I would hope to see win, it would be Miss. State, but I would just have trouble putting it down on them.
But again, they will play, and we will see how it goes.
Georgia 45, Clemson 21
Ole Miss 35, Boise State 13
Alabama 33, West Virginia 23
Auburn 20, Kansas State 14
LSU 28, Wisconsin 24
The SEC - particularly the SEC West - has earned two, maybe even three bids by tearing up the rest of college football. The Big Ten, by comparison, pi**ed down their leg in non-conference play - if a one loss MSU or OSU team gets in over a one loss SEC West team, it will be a crime.
I would argue that USCe's win over ECU is more impressive than Ole Miss' win over Boise. All in, the SEC has 4 close wins over quality competition, and also has a loss by the possible Eastern Division champion to Indiana. What happens when the SEC goes 1-3 in the late season ACC/SEC games, which I think is the likely outcome.
When you don't have more games connecting the conferences, it is difficult to compare teams from different conferences.
Is their schedule that is made four years in advance their fault. A win is a win especially to a top five teamBased on what?
They've beaten one top 20 team. At home. On a questionable call.
Last years FSU is a lot better then this years. A lot.Which 5 teams in the SEC are better than FSU? FSU beat an undefeated Auburn team in the title game last year. Ole Miss and Miss State are great stories and have really good teams, I don't think I'd pick either on a neutral field against FSU if Winston is playing. I say this knowing FSU is slightly not as good as they were last year.
Yes, I forgot to mention USC's win over ECU, though I was really just referencing the contenders in the conference. Admittedly, the Boise State win probably doesn't belong on the list with the others, but I'm not sure where you are drawing the "4 close wins over quality competition" figure from. Clemson, Wisconsin, East Carolina, West Virginia, and Kansas State all count as quality wins by my book.
Missouri going down to Indiana is really the conferences only blemish. Florida State beating Florida and Louisville beating Kentucky would be about as impactful to me as Alabama beating N.C. State.
It will be 8. The drumbeat has already started. The same student- athlete excuses will be raised. But, the gradual move towards 8 is in the works.
As for the G5, the P5 will resist. But at 8, I think they'll be under increasing pressure at inclusion. And 8 raises the $. And contrary to some comments, there are lots of reasons to think that the money if going up.
ibleedhuskyblue said:The above scenario would have happened with the old system, and likely will with the next one.
There are 120+ teams, and a twelve game schedule...it's not possible to get that totally correct. There is no answer that will get the best teams (and only the best teams) into the playoff.
whaler11 said:The composite computer rankings have it:
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Auburn
Alabama
Florida State
Georgia
So maybe the argument has some
validity?
This is a function of these teams not playing anyone and getting credit for playing mediocre teams in the SEC. While you can probably throw a hat over all 6 for who is better, they are not all that different from Oregon, Michigan St.
Mr. Conehead said:The move to an 8 team playoff will begin this season as there will likely be a 1 loss SEC team that will lose out on a bid to a 1 loss ND, PAC or XII team, which will not go over well. Plus, 8 teams gives enough wiggle room for the P5 to invite an undefeated non P5 team is such a team is undefeated and has a strong schedule (by excluding non P5 teams from their schedules, the P5 is already trying to close this loophole) because not doing so may get unwanted attention from the courts and/or Washington DC. P5 gives 5 auto bids and 3 wildcards and only adds a week to the schedule; but, it does dilute the bowls even further.
Ideally, the first round of the 8 team playoff is played at the home team of the higher seed. the semi-finals and final (3 games) would then be at a neutral site hosted by some rotation of bowls (Rose, Fiesta, Cotton, Sugar, Orange?)
whaler11 said:Oregon and Michigan State are probably the two most similar - but on a week to week basis the SEC in conference is playing much better competition.
No doubt it's the best, and the best team on paper will come from SEC, but compounding rep by playing only each other isn't a valid analysis to say 4 out of 5.
Much like the FIFA rankings give UEFA teams extra points just for playing UEFA teams, whether it's Andorra or Germany.
I think most people agree with this. The bowl attendance and ratings are going to drop significantly because all anyone will care about is the playoffs. It will be 8 teams sooner than later.