I am glad we did not get Vonleh...

[Greathusky]

http://nba.si.com/2014/03/24/noah-vonleh-2014-nba-draft-indiana-hoosiers/?eref=sihp

 

[upstater]

If it would have meant we lost out on Brimah, then you are right. If it could have meant both Brimah and Vonleh as a two-headed monster, then I'm not glad. I would take Vonleh for a one game rental right now!

 

[CTKIDD]

Not sure if you're premise is you don't like one and dones. If that is it we can argue that forever. I come from the school that you put the best talent on the floor whenever you can. He would of been a step up IMO

 

[upstater]

Not sure if you're premise is you don't like one and dones. If that is it we can argue that forever. I come from the school that you put the best talent on the floor whenever you can. He would of been a step up IMO

While this is true, you wouldn't trade Vonleh for Brimah, right? I know I wouldn't.

 

[James]

I'm not glad

 

[kyle]

Jeremy Holowell and Austin Etherington are most likely transferring as well. IU and Tom Crean are in big trouble.

 

[Greathusky]

Not sure if you're premise is you don't like one and dones. If that is it we can argue that forever. I come from the school that you put the best talent on the floor whenever you can. He would of been a step up IMO

I prefer watching players develop over their college careers at which JC was a master in doing. Perhaps Vonleh would have been a step up for our team but as an earlier poster stated, we may have missed a gem in Brimah. The kid has been fun to watch.

 

[Lefty2one]

On the other side of things I think Vonleh is going to be a damn good pro in a few years. I would take my chances on him over Smart or Ennis.

 

[James]

I prefer watching players develop over their college careers at which JC was a master in doing. Perhaps Vonleh would have been a step up for our team but as an earlier poster stated, we may have missed a gem in Brimah. The kid has been fun to watch.

Dont get too comfortable, we could very well have two "1 and dones" playing next year. Part of me thinks KO could have gotten him to stay another year, another part sees him as a lock for top ten in the draft. hard to pass up the latter.

 

[CTKIDD]

While this is true, you wouldn't trade Vonleh for Brimah, right? I know I wouldn't.

No way... Not in a sec knowing he is gone. You're point is well taken and I would not do that trade "today" . I think we got a keeper with Brimah and I'll go to war with him. But if you asked me before the season started who I'm taking, I'm taking vonleh

 

[champs99and04]

While this is true, you wouldn't trade Vonleh for Brimah, right? I know I wouldn't.

If it's between the current version of Vonleh and the current version of Brimah, I'll take Vonleh. If it's one year of Vonleh vs. three years of Brimah, I wholeheartedly agree.

 

[Tenspro2002]

There are times this year when I would have rather had Vonleh than Daniels at the 4. Possibly even this coming weekend.

But next year I'd rather have Daniels than a gaping hole in our roster.

(Note: I'm comparing whose position Vonleh would have taken, obviously not whose spot on the roster he would have taken in the same recruiting year.)

 

[NHUConnfan]

Jeremy Holowell and Austin Etherington are most likely transferring as well. IU and Tom Crean are in big trouble.

Just confirmed with the possibility of a walk-on, Jonny Marlin, leaving too. That's 4 seniors and 3 scholarship players plus 1 walk-on.

IU just tanked. Hard.

 

[tzznandrew]

Is it that the kids don't like Crean? I mean, I know he's not a good game coach, but kids like to play for all sorts of poor game coaches (Roy, Self, Calipari, etc.).

 

[upstater]

He recruited over a lot of these kids. They should be just fine talent wise. I mean, how many SFs can you possibly need? He's got the kid from Virginia, already has Williams. They recruited 4 small forwards and were still going after Devin Robinson.

 

[UCONNfan1]

While this is true, you wouldn't trade Vonleh for Brimah, right? I know I wouldn't.

Trade him? No. Add him? Yes. I get the point of the OP - if getting a guy for 1 year meant losing out on Brimah, then I say no. But I don't think Brimah was that highly sought after. He was a 2 star recruit. Who else did he have offers from? Would he have come if we had Vonleh on board too? I don't know. But I'm selfish. Take em both...

I see Brimah as a 3 year kid. Some may say he could jump after 2, but look at what Thabeet has done. I think NBA execs would be crazy to take Brimah, as raw as he is, after only 2 years. Let him add some real muscle and see how he can do at the elite college level first...

 

[Matrim55]

He recruited over a lot of these kids. They should be just fine talent wise.

Yeah, but the culture there is broken. When you start seeing defections like that, you're seeing a program in trouble.

I think we can all appreciate how having experience on the bench - and by that I mean guys who play sparingly - can still help a program. It's practically necessary if you're giving big minutes to freshman, which is what IU will be doing.

They'll be a .500 team (or thereabouts) again next year, and Crean will be out. At which point someone will drive a Crimson-and-Cream colored dumptruck full of cash up to Gregg Marshall's house.

 

[progrocks]

Creen has about 400 years left on his contract, but if next year goes like this year he will be gone. This is not what they expect 7 years into his time there, completely not acceptable.

 

[Waquoit]

If it's between the current version of Vonleh and the current version of Brimah, I'll take Vonleh. If it's one year of Vonleh vs. three years of Brimah, I wholeheartedly agree.

I'll take the guy that saved our 1st round game.

 

[storrsroars]

I'd think that will all the defections, IU might be looking at some APR issues. That's a lot of retention points they won't get.