Hypothetical Conferences

[31GuardTrap]

I'll play. Was bouncing this around a bit last fall. came up with the following conferences. First is the Big 5 (16 team conferences) and then the next 4 (12 teams each). This is just in fun just football thinking only. Taking out who has this network and that network etc...It is certainly open to better options which I am sure we see here.
Here it goes:
BIG 5...
Pac 16: North: Washington, Wash St, Oregon, Oregon St, Cal, Stanford, Boise St, Utah
South: USC, UCLA, Arizona, Ariz St, Colorado, Col St, Fresno St, San Diego St
Conference of Entitlement: West: Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Miss St, Arkansas, LSU, Texas A&M, Mizzou
East: Georgia, South Carolina, Clemson, Florida, Florida St, Kentucky, Tennessee, Vandy
ACC: North: BC, Syracuse, Pitt, East Carolina, Wake Forest, Louisville, Virginia Tech, UConn
South: Duke, UNC, East Carolina, NC State, Georgia Tech, Miami, UCF, USF
Big 10: West: Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Ohio St, Northwestern, Cincy
East: Michigan, Mich St, Penn St, Rutgers, Maryland, Indiana, Purdue, Navy
Big 12: North: Kansas, K-State, Iowa St, W. Virginia, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Ok State, Memphis
South: Texas, Texas Tech, SMU, TCU, Houston, BYU, Air Force, UTSA
Next 4....
MWC: Hills: Hawaii, San Jose St, Nevada, Wyoming, Idaho, Utah St
Desert: UNLV, UTEP, New Mexico, NM St, North Dakota St, Rice
Gulf: North: Tulsa, Mid Tenn, Arkansas St, N Texas, Texas St, So Miss
South: Tulane, LA Tech, LA Monroe, LA Laf, Troy, UAB
Down Southern: North: Army, UMass, Temple, W Kentucky, Marshall, Old Dominion
South: Florida Int, Florida Atl, Georgia St, Georgia So, Appalachian St, S Alabama

**North Dakota State was given a promotion and UAB was given their football back under this hypothetical in order to make it an even number of teams.

All will have a Conf Champ game. Big 5, the 5 Conf Winners and 3 "at-large" teams will compete in playoff.
Next 4 conf champs and 4 "at-large" will compete in playoff.


Let the bashing of this begin.....

 

[Sky ball]

Does East Carolina have an A and B team by talent? Or are they equal in talent?

 

[Ha Who]

Can I have some kool aid. I want in any P5. I don't care if we are in the Pac 16 West.

 

[CTBasketball]

No chance East Carolina gets into the ACC. That's like inviting Quinnipiac into the old Big East so we can fight for recruits with them...

 

[The Funster]

Gotta have ///////// or the whole conference - idea thing just doesn't work.

 

[billybud]

Adding another Carolina program (ECU) to the ACC would be over the dead bodies of a few AD's...a guaranteed mutiny.

 

[B1Gtymer]

Well, if its just for fun, here's mine.

The new D1A Football

PAC
Arizona, Arizona State, California, Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, Texas, Texas Tech, UCLA, USC, Utah, Washington, Washington State

B12
Baylor, Brigham Young, Buffalo, Central Florida, Colorado State, East Carolina, Houston, Memphis, Rice, South Florida, Southern Methodist, Temple, Texas Christian, Tulane, Tulsa, Wake Forest

SEC
Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kansas State, Kentucky, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma State, Tennessee, Texas A&M, South Carolina, Vanderbilt

ACC
Boston College, Cincinnati, Clemson, Duke, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Miami, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Virginia, Virginia Tech, West Virginia

and... (drum roll please) last but not least,

B1G
Connecticut, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Iowa State, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers, Wisconsin

All other schools and conferences get bumped down with the top FCS teams and conferences into the new D1AA (all still D1 in basketball)

I would like to see no divisions or pods and instead use this scheduling formula. Each B1G team plays three automatic rivals every year and six of the 12 remaining teams played on a rotating home-home basis (9 game conference schedule). This ensures schools keep their three main conference rivals on the schedule every year and get to play every team at home and on the road every four years.

B1G permanent rivalry match ups:
Connecticut: Indiana, Maryland, Rutgers
Illinois: Ohio State, Northwestern, Purdue
Indiana: Connecticut, Michigan State, Purdue
Iowa: Iowa State, Minnesota, Nebraska
Iowa State: Iowa, Nebraska, Wisconsin
Maryland: Connecticut, Penn State, Rutgers
Michigan: Michigan State, Northwestern, Ohio State
Michigan State: Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin
Minnesota: Iowa, Nebraska, Wisconsin
Nebraska: Iowa, Iowa State, Minnesota
Northwestern: Illinois, Michigan, Purdue
Ohio State: Illinois, Michigan, Penn State
Penn State: Maryland, Ohio State, Rutgers
Purdue: Illinois, Indiana, Northwestern
Rutgers: Connecticut, Maryland, Penn State
Wisconsin: Iowa State, Michigan State, Minnesota

 

[Redding Husky]

As long as we're dealing in fantasies ... The Northeast Conference:

NORTH

BC
UMass
UConn
Army
Syracuse
Rutgers

SOUTH

Temple
Penn State
Pitt
WVU
Navy
Maryland

 

[31GuardTrap]

Does East Carolina have an A and B team by talent? Or are they equal in talent?

yeah.. i just realized that screw up....

 

[NickyNewark]

As long as we're dealing in fantasies ... The Northeast Conference:

NORTH

BC
UMass
UConn
Army
Syracuse
Rutgers

SOUTH

Temple
Penn State
Pitt
WVU
Navy
Maryland

I like that representation of the NE and think conferences should divide up and represent by region for the NC. I'm sure it would increase pride and fan interest. The average Joe fan is pretty disgusted at the greed involved in CFB over the last twenty yrs esp concerning the CR craze!! Wheres the loyalty? At least make sure every major state has a piece of the CR pie.

 

[Ldandy]

Strictly for fun...

8 Divisions of 10 teams. Nationwide coverage with no team currently in a P5 League being left behind. Play 9 conference games, 2 cross division, and 1 G5/FCS. 8 conference champions participating in a true national playoff. Casual fans would be invested as there would be representation in essentially every corner of the country. Broadcasting rights could be split among the networks and ESPN.

Northeast- BC, UCONN, SU, RU, PSU, Pitt, WVU, UMD, ND, Navy

Mid Atlantic/SE- UVA, VPI, Duke, WF, UNC, NCSU, Clemson, GT, UM, FSU

Deep South- USCe, UGA, UF, UT, Vandy, UK, Bama, AU, Ole Miss, MSU

Southwest- LSU, Tulane, Ark, A&M, UT, TTU, Baylor, TCU, UH, SMU

Plains- UNL, OU, OSU, KU, KSU, ISU, Mizzou, UC, Cincy, Louisville,

Midwest- OSU, UM, MSU, Iowa, UW, Minny, IU, PU, NW, IL

Mountain/West - BYU, Utah, BSU, Wyoming, CSU, , UNLV, UNM, ASU, AU

Pacific- USC, UCLA, Cal, SU, SDSU, UH, OU, OSU, UW, WSU

Obviously not all divisions are perfect, but this would essentially blanket the country everywhere minus Alaska. After the season is completed you can bring in the committee to seed the tournament. Play rd of 8 at higher seeds field. Final 4 and Championship can be rotated among Orange, Fiesta, Cotton, Rose, Sugar, and possibly a new bowl in the North or Midwest.

 

[itgoeslike]

Strictly for fun...

8 Divisions of 10 teams. Nationwide coverage with no team currently in a P5 League being left behind. Play 9 conference games, 2 cross division, and 1 G5/FCS. 8 conference champions participating in a true national playoff. Casual fans would be invested as there would be representation in essentially every corner of the country. Broadcasting rights could be split among the networks and ESPN.

Northeast- BC, UCONN, SU, RU, PSU, Pitt, WVU, UMD, ND, Navy

Mid Atlantic/SE- UVA, VPI, Duke, WF, UNC, NCSU, Clemson, GT, UM, FSU

Deep South- USCe, UGA, UF, UT, Vandy, UK, Bama, AU, Ole Miss, MSU

Southwest- LSU, Tulane, Ark, A&M, UT, TTU, Baylor, TCU, UH, SMU

Plains- UNL, OU, OSU, KU, KSU, ISU, Mizzou, UC, Cincy, Louisville,

Midwest- OSU, UM, MSU, Iowa, UW, Minny, IU, PU, NW, IL

Mountain/West - BYU, Utah, BSU, Wyoming, CSU, , UNLV, UNM, ASU, AU

Pacific- USC, UCLA, Cal, SU, SDSU, UH, OU, OSU, UW, WSU

Obviously not all divisions are perfect, but this would essentially blanket the country everywhere minus Alaska. After the season is completed you can bring in the committee to seed the tournament. Play rd of 8 at higher seeds field. Final 4 and Championship can be rotated among Orange, Fiesta, Cotton, Rose, Sugar, and possibly a new bowl in the North or Midwest.

It's hypothetical, so I'm not going to debate the makeup, but I think 80 is plausible as the final number. Whether it's comprised of eight conferences of 10, four conferences of 20, or five conferences of 16, 80 total schools includes pretty much all the teams that could make a make a case for power conference membership (although ECU and Tulsa may disagree with the list above). It doesn't line up perfectly, but you can see the 1st pair having ACC roots, the 2nd pair having SEC roots, the 3rd pair having B1G roots and the 4th pair having PAC roots. Lastly, since you have Cincy, who is UC in the Plains division? It's early, so I may be missing someone obvious.

 

[djct1999]

No way UConn agrees to be in the same conference with BC and Syracuse. With time, both schools inferiority will increase and they will be left for dead in the doldrums of the weakest P5 conference. UConn wants nothing to do with that

 

[Ldandy]

It's hypothetical, so I'm not going to debate the makeup, but I think 80 is plausible as the final number. Whether it's comprised of eight conferences of 10, four conferences of 20, or five conferences of 16, 80 total schools includes pretty much all the teams that could make a make a case for power conference membership (although ECU and Tulsa may disagree with the list above). It doesn't line up perfectly, but you can see the 1st pair having ACC roots, the 2nd pair having SEC roots, the 3rd pair having B1G roots and the 4th pair having PAC roots. Lastly, since you have Cincy, who is UC in the Plains division? It's early, so I may be missing someone obvious.

Should read CU for The Buffs

 

[itgoeslike]

Should read CU for The Buffs

Ah. Got it. I understand the Buffalos history with the Plains members but would slot them in the Mountain division, bumping Wyoming. I could see Memphis or Tulsa sliding into the vacated spot within Plains division.

 

[Sea Goat]

As long as we are dealing with utter fantasy, here's mine...

 

[Ldandy]

Ah. Got it. I understand the Buffalos history with the Plains members but would slot them in the Mountain division, bumping Wyoming. I could see Memphis or Tulsa sliding into the vacated spot within Plains division.

I was aiming at more representation for individual states. With OU and OSU already on board, there's not much need for another school in a state the size of Oklahoma. Ditto for Memphis with UT/Vandy.

 

[itgoeslike]

I was aiming at more representation for individual states. With OU and OSU already on board, there's not much need for another school in a state the size of Oklahoma. Ditto for Memphis with UT/Vandy.

I can see the logic for OK. Although, Memphis is virtually in Arkansas and Mississippi and pretty far from the other two TN schools. In fact, UT is closer to a bunch schools (UK, VT, Louisville, NC, USC, UNC, UGA, etc.) than it is Memphis. It's entirely possible Memphis would entertain being annexed by Arkansas if it meant going to P5 conference (kidding).

 

[Huskybite]

At last, CR that makes sense:

http://www.cougarboard.com/board/message.html?id=14025910

 

[CoastAtlantic]

http://csnbbs.com/thread-727032-post-11774342.html#pid11774342

I agree with his scenario. This is what I would like.

 

[Gretchen]

http://csnbbs.com/thread-727032-post-11774342.html#pid11774342

I agree with his scenario. This is what I would like.

Texas - where does it fit? It's South, but not the 'Old' South. Not quite SW or Mountain. Clearly not Pacific or NW. Obviously not East Coast, Northeast, or Mid West. I could see an indie Texas. But what then of Oklahoma? Kind of the same problem but w/o the Texas 'aura'. Kansas is easy... B1G.

 

[NickyNewark]

Texas - where does it fit? It's South, but not the 'Old' South. Not quite SW or Mountain. Clearly not Pacific or NW. Obviously not East Coast, Northeast, or Mid West. I could see an indie Texas. But what then of Oklahoma? Kind of the same problem but w/o the Texas 'aura'. Kansas is easy... B1G.

I'd like to see either a western add of Okie or Kansas and eastern partner UConn as Texas seems to bring too much baggage.