George DeLeone

[UConn07]

I know someone looked up Temple's history with GDL as OC. What about at Syracuse?

Can someone break that down?

 

[OHusky]

I know this is a waste of time but I think we need to give this a rest. No matter how inept he is, nothing is going to happen until this season is over. Would rather see our energy focused positively to support the team during the season. I don't have any inside info but suspect there will be major changes in the off season.

 

[pj]

ESPN only has stats back to 2004, DeLeone's last year as OC: http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/183/year/2004/syracuse-orange

Passing was terrible -- 170 yards per game, 8 TDs, 14 INTs -- but rushing was OK -- 178 yards per game, 4.5 yards per carry. They ran 60% of snaps.

Compare that to us this year: running is 56% of snaps, 2.8 yards per carry and 102 yards per game, passing is 208 yards per game 4 TDs 10 INTs. We have a better passing rating than the 2004 Orange, 116 to 110, due to our passes going a little farther downfield. Rushing is much worse. Yards per game is 310 vs 348.

Statistically it looks like the style of play hasn't changed.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

I know this is a waste of time but I think we need to give this a rest. No matter how inept he is, nothing is going to happen until this season is over. Would rather see our energy focused positively to support the team during the season. I don't have any inside info but suspect there will be major changes in the off season.

Yeah probably true. I went on a mini rant about firing GDL now (and still would support it) but it's just not going to happen.

At this point in time I have to trust that if P & D are back next year, then this team has shown significant improvement over the next 6 games, and that would be a good thing. If the season goes like I have a feeling it will then we'll address it in December.

 

[UConn07]

ESPN only has stats back to 2004, DeLeone's last year as OC: http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/183/year/2004/syracuse-orange

Passing was terrible -- 170 yards per game, 8 TDs, 14 INTs -- but rushing was OK -- 178 yards per game, 4.5 yards per carry. They ran 60% of snaps.

Compare that to us this year: running is 56% of snaps, 2.8 yards per carry and 102 yards per game, passing is 208 yards per game 4 TDs 10 INTs. We have a better passing rating than the 2004 Orange, 116 to 110. Rushing is much worse. Yards per game is 310 vs 348.

I would say similar style.

Look at this stat line by Orlovsky...http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=243040183

"Losing to the Huskies (5-3, 2-3) in their first season in the Big East also would not have done wonders for the job security of Syracuse head coach Paul Pasqualoni, who has been under fire from the fans, who continued to show their displeasure with the team. Announced attendance was 34,545, about 15,000 below the Carrier Dome's capacity and not much more than the last basketball game between the teams."

 

[ZooCougar]

ESPN only has stats back to 2004, DeLeone's last year as OC: http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/183/year/2004/syracuse-orange

Passing was terrible -- 170 yards per game, 8 TDs, 14 INTs -- but rushing was OK -- 178 yards per game, 4.5 yards per carry. They ran 60% of snaps.

Compare that to us this year: running is 56% of snaps, 2.8 yards per carry and 102 yards per game, passing is 208 yards per game 4 TDs 10 INTs. We have a better passing rating than the 2004 Orange, 116 to 110, due to our passes going a little farther downfield. Rushing is much worse. Yards per game is 310 vs 348.

Statistically it looks like the style of play hasn't changed.

I have a vague memory of their offense. It was good when they had top talent like McNabb and Qadry Ismail. Not even sure if DeLeone was the OC when those guys were on the team. I think the last time they were actually potent was with Troy Nunes.

Anyone recall Perry Patterson? That was a P idea.

The Cuse fans seemed to have the same exact ideas about P and D that we do. These gentlemen are nice guys who know football, but they seem to have gone past their sell by date and they aren't cutting the mustard.

 

[ruskin]

DeLeone stats at Syracuse after 1999 (he left Syracuse to coach SD Chargers O Line in 1997, returned to Syracuse in 1998 and was D Coordinator for a year before taking over offense in 99). Then as a refresher bring in the Temple numbers, his last 2 yrs in college game before coming to UConn.


1999: Syracuse 80th in nation in total offense (335), 39th rushing, 88th passing
2000: Syracuse 52nd in total offense, 18th rushing, 92nd passing
2001: Syracuse 93rd in total offense, 41st rushing, 98th passing (the heralded 10-3 season)
2002: Syracuse 54th in total offense, 34th rushing, 79th passing (4-8)
2003: Syracuse 70th total offense, 26th rushing, 91st passing (6-6)
2004: Syracuse 78th total offense, 31st rushing, 100th passing
2006: Temple 118th in total offense, 118 rushing, 98 passing
2007: Temple 112th in total offense, 108 rushing, 73 passing

Average finish: 85th in nation total offense in last six Syracuse years only, average finish 93 in 8 years including Temple. That's 85th out of 120 or so.

Let's pretend JH actually asked PP about his offensive philosophy and who he'd hire as OC - and I highly doubt that question was ever asked.
"So Paul tell me your thoughts on offense and how you'll handle it." "Well I got my lifelong buddy here who I coached with Southern in the 1970s. Did I tell you we're good buddies with all the Connecticut high school coaches?"

 

[pj]

So, if we have poor talent we'll be near the bottom of all FBS schools, and if we have superior talent we'll reach the statistical middle?

 

[ruskin]

Just sayin that a real AD would have been very skeptical of a head coach bringing in an OC with that kind of track record. Even throwing out the Temple numbers, the Syracuse struggles (never mind the declining attendance due to lack of offensive excitement) should have been a red flag.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

DeLeone stats at Syracuse after 1999 (he left Syracuse to coach SD Chargers O Line in 1997, returned to Syracuse in 1998 and was D Coordinator for a year before taking over offense in 99). Then as a refresher bring in the Temple numbers, his last 2 yrs in college game before coming to UConn.


1999: Syracuse 80th in nation in total offense (335), 39th rushing, 88th passing
2000: Syracuse 52nd in total offense, 18th rushing, 92nd passing
2001: Syracuse 93rd in total offense, 41st rushing, 98th passing (the heralded 10-3 season)
2002: Syracuse 54th in total offense, 34th rushing, 79th passing (4-8)
2003: Syracuse 70th total offense, 26th rushing, 91st passing (6-6)
2004: Syracuse 78th total offense, 31st rushing, 100th passing
2006: Temple 118th in total offense, 118 rushing, 98 passing
2007: Temple 112th in total offense, 108 rushing, 73 passing

Average finish: 85th in nation total offense in last six Syracuse years only, average finish 93 in 8 years including Temple. That's 85th out of 120 or so.

Let's pretend JH actually asked PP about his offensive philosophy and who he'd hire as OC - and I highly doubt that question was ever asked.
"So Paul tell me your thoughts on offense and how you'll handle it." "Well I got my lifelong buddy here who I coached with Southern in the 1970s. Did I tell you we're good buddies with all the Connecticut high school coaches?"

Interesting that Cuse had decent ground games but dismal passing games under GDL. Pretty dismal record if you consider that Cuse did not have horrible talent all those years.

 

[ruskin]

Oops, my bad on math (divided Syracuse nos by five, not six). Average finish at Syracuse 71st. Still averaging in 40th percentile or so.

 

[ZooCougar]

DeLeone stats at Syracuse after 1999 (he left Syracuse to coach SD Chargers O Line in 1997, returned to Syracuse in 1998 and was D Coordinator for a year before taking over offense in 99). Then as a refresher bring in the Temple numbers, his last 2 yrs in college game before coming to UConn.


1999: Syracuse 80th in nation in total offense (335), 39th rushing, 88th passing
2000: Syracuse 52nd in total offense, 18th rushing, 92nd passing
2001: Syracuse 93rd in total offense, 41st rushing, 98th passing (the heralded 10-3 season)
2002: Syracuse 54th in total offense, 34th rushing, 79th passing (4-8)
2003: Syracuse 70th total offense, 26th rushing, 91st passing (6-6)
2004: Syracuse 78th total offense, 31st rushing, 100th passing
2006: Temple 118th in total offense, 118 rushing, 98 passing
2007: Temple 112th in total offense, 108 rushing, 73 passing

Average finish: 85th in nation total offense in last six Syracuse years only, average finish 93 in 8 years including Temple. That's 85th out of 120 or so.

Let's pretend JH actually asked PP about his offensive philosophy and who he'd hire as OC - and I highly doubt that question was ever asked.
"So Paul tell me your thoughts on offense and how you'll handle it." "Well I got my lifelong buddy here who I coached with Southern in the 1970s. Did I tell you we're good buddies with all the Connecticut high school coaches?"

Good research.

Basically what people need to understand is that when an AD makes a hire, he is basically making a decision on what type of offense and defense a school is going to run.

 

[UConnJim]

This is a great analysis by ruskin. Send it to Warde Manuel.

 

[pj]

There were fewer FBS (1-A) teams then.

Since 1999, new teams in FBS include (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_programs): Buffalo, UConn, Florida Atlantic, FIU, UMass, Middle Tennessee, South Alabama, South Florida, Texas State, Troy, UTSA, and Western Kentucky.

So Deleone's passing game has never been better than the 70th percentile of FBS, and generally around the 85th percentile. I.e. C- in a good year, D in an average year, F in a bad year.

 

[ZooCougar]

I'm sure one of the beat reporters will get around to publishing research like this. Cough, cough, hint, hint.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

DeLeone stats at Syracuse after 1999 (he left Syracuse to coach SD Chargers O Line in 1997, returned to Syracuse in 1998 and was D Coordinator for a year before taking over offense in 99). Then as a refresher bring in the Temple numbers, his last 2 yrs in college game before coming to UConn.


1999: Syracuse 80th in nation in total offense (335), 39th rushing, 88th passing
2000: Syracuse 52nd in total offense, 18th rushing, 92nd passing
2001: Syracuse 93rd in total offense, 41st rushing, 98th passing (the heralded 10-3 season)
2002: Syracuse 54th in total offense, 34th rushing, 79th passing (4-8)
2003: Syracuse 70th total offense, 26th rushing, 91st passing (6-6)
2004: Syracuse 78th total offense, 31st rushing, 100th passing
2006: Temple 118th in total offense, 118 rushing, 98 passing
2007: Temple 112th in total offense, 108 rushing, 73 passing

Average finish: 85th in nation total offense in last six Syracuse years only, average finish 93 in 8 years including Temple. That's 85th out of 120 or so.

Let's pretend JH actually asked PP about his offensive philosophy and who he'd hire as OC - and I highly doubt that question was ever asked.
"So Paul tell me your thoughts on offense and how you'll handle it." "Well I got my lifelong buddy here who I coached with Southern in the 1970s. Did I tell you we're good buddies with all the Connecticut high school coaches?"

How did this guy get the job? It is the good old boys network with Hathaway and coach P. GDL has no business getting a job as an OC even at a MAC school. His track record is just plain horrible. WVU, OTOH, went out and got Dana H. Look at their offense and the kind of number they put up and it is night and day. Why can't we hire someone with the Air Raid offense philosophy? Hathaway is killing us slowly with this horrible horrible hire.