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BrianHamiltonSI 11:25am via TweetDeck
Jim Delany on Big Ten strength of schedule plan starting in 2016: No FCS. One “intersectional game” against Power 5 team, nine league games.

slmandel 11:25am via Twitter for iPhone
Big Ten strength of schedule model that begins next season (includes no FCS foes).
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Autonomy 5 = Power 5 = Flucked! (unless of course it's a conference game)
 

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The no FCS is no surprise, will eventually be adopted by all leagues, and will be a windfall for the MAC and Sun Belt who should see guarantee game fees reach $1.5 million or more in the not too distant future. I think this could have the side effect of making scheduling home games just a tad easier for UConn, if our football program ever recovers to mediocrity, because paying $1.5 or possible $2.0 million for a MAC team to come to town will make a road game to the northeast seem a little more palatable.

I would not be surprised to see the 9 game conference schedule get revisited and turn into 8 league games, 2 major non-conference games, and 2 other games. Intersectional games are great for TV, whereas another game between Minnesota/Indiana/Purdue/Rutgers/Iowa/Maryland isn't going to draw a lot of viewers.
 

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I would not be surprised to see the 9 game conference schedule get revisited and turn into 8 league games, 2 major non-conference games, and 2 other games. Intersectional games are great for TV, whereas another game between Minnesota/Indiana/Purdue/Rutgers/Iowa/Maryland isn't going to draw a lot of viewers.

What are you talking about? The push to nine games was get more assured programming for the BTN. Going back to 8 games with more home and homes gives less programming available for the BTN. Why do you think there is a push to get a team like Oklahoma? More high level games in control of the conference.
 
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Nine conference games isn't going anywhere. We have a stronger chance of going to ten conference games than we do of going back to eight. Ten conference games was on the table at one point.
 

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9 conference games is a lock going forward. You add more schools to your conference so that you can play more meaningful conference games on your Network. Casual fans won't want to watch Michigan vs Western Michigan or Ohio St vs Miami OH, but they will watch either school play Rutgers or Maryland.

If anything, this model only shows that expansion is more likely. The more meaningful conference games you can play on your network, the better. The model will be more conference games, not less.
 

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What are you talking about? The push to nine games was get more assured programming for the BTN. Going back to 8 games with more home and homes gives less programming available for the BTN. Why do you think there is a push to get a team like Oklahoma? More high level games in control of the conference.

If you have 9 conference games, that, by definition, means that half your teams are playing an extra road game that year. It doesn't give you more games for the network than what you would get if the Big 10 schools scheduled home and homes with other majors, or better yet, neutral site games with split rebroadcast rights. That would also have more appeal to the selection committee because non-conference wins will carry more weight than another intraconference win when it is down to 2 teams for the final slot, or when comparing two conferences from top to bottom.
 
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9 conference games is a lock going forward. You add more schools to your conference so that you can play more meaningful conference games on your Network. Casual fans won't want to watch Michigan vs Western Michigan or Ohio St vs Miami OH, but they will watch either school play Rutgers or Maryland.

If anything, this model only shows that expansion is more likely. The more meaningful conference games you can play on your network, the better. The model will be more conference games, not less.

...and the more meaningful conference games (basketball) you can air on your network from December through April, the better. Sign us up.
 

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9 conference games is a lock going forward. You add more schools to your conference so that you can play more meaningful conference games on your Network. Casual fans won't want to watch Michigan vs Western Michigan or Ohio St vs Miami OH, but they will watch either school play Rutgers or Maryland.

If anything, this model only shows that expansion is more likely. The more meaningful conference games you can play on your network, the better. The model will be more conference games, not less.

Are the two choices 9 conference games or an extra game against Western Michigan?
 

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Are the two choices 9 conference games or an extra game against Western Michigan?

Yes. Those are the two choices for every Power conference. Western Michigan just improved its SOS from 128th to 1st.
 

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If you have 9 conference games, that, by definition, means that half your teams are playing an extra road game that year. It doesn't give you more games for the network than what you would get if the Big 10 schools scheduled home and homes with other majors, or better yet, neutral site games with split rebroadcast rights. That would also have more appeal to the selection committee because non-conference wins will carry more weight than another intraconference win when it is down to 2 teams for the final slot, or when comparing two conferences from top to bottom.

Is that even right? I think you're confusing the weight given to Baylor's putrid (SMU, NW St, @Buffalo), and TCU's slightly better (@SMU, Samford, Minny) OOC's to the extra P5 champ games. If anything, last year proved 100% opposite of what you're saying - the extra conference game bumped Ohio St above the 2 TX teams, although the whole process was stinky.
 

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Is that even right? I think you're confusing the weight given to Baylor's putrid (SMU, NW St, @Buffalo), and TCU's slightly better (@SMU, Samford, Minny) OOC's to the extra P5 champ games. If anything, last year proved 100% opposite of what you're saying - the extra conference game bumped Ohio St above the 2 TX teams, although the whole process was stinky.

Both Big 12 OOC's sucked, which left them exposed to getting jumped. If Baylor and TCU were carrying around big OOC wins, or if the Big 12 as a whole had racked up 8-10 quality scalps, Ohio State tearing up a coachless Wisconsin team wouldn't have mattered.
 

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Well, maybe, but i don't see anything on paper that proves your point, either. It also depends on the credence anyone gives the pre-final playoff rankings.
 
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OU bugle Berry Tramel - Big Ten's new scheduling model further cripples Big 12's status

>>The Big Ten’s 1910 scheduling initiative is a sign of a conference with vision. The nine-game format, with mandated quality of opponents, and the Big Ten’s championship game, will give the Big Ten all kinds of ammunition in the committee room of the College Football Playoff. Most football decisions these days are made with an eye to barging into the four-team field. The Big 12’s decisions often seem to be made with an eye toward finding a back door into the committee room at the Gaylord Texan.

The Big Ten’s scheduling initiative also enhances the Big Ten’s television package, which expires in two years. More conference games, fewer (or none) matchups against I-AA foes, means more quality television and thus more money from networks hungry for live programming.

The Big Ten acts like a conference that plans to be around for the next century. With the Big 12, you wonder about the next decade.<<
 

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So the Big 10's 9 game conference schedule is a good idea, but the Big 12's 9 game conference schedule is a bad idea?

A league's non-conference games are going to drive playoff berths between similar resumes. I don't think the 9th game will help either league at all.
 

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A Penn State over Wisconsin or Iowa over Michigan State in a B1G Championship Game will certainly be the deciding factor for the Select 4 over a Big 12 team that goes 8-1 in conference and 3-0 vs Tulsa, Rice and Johnny Walker U. The Big 12 needs to remove their heads from Bevo's butt and improve their conference, fast.
With friends in Dallas that are huge OU and Texas fans and donors, even they are finally to realize the rest of the P-5's are pulling away. Panic will set in after this season when a 11-1 TCU loses out.
 
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Championship Games add an extra game against a, presumably, good opponent. Even when FSU played against Duke a few years ago, Duke was ranked entering the game. Having an extra game against a ranked team beats ending your season whipping Kansas a week earlier 100 tie-breaker times out of 100. Ohio St won the national championship game thanks to having a B1G championship game and the opportunity to whip Wisconsin. Without that game, TCU is the 4th playoff team.

There are 2 ways that the B12 can combat against that happening again. 1) add teams so they can get a friggin' CG; 2) schedule nothing but ranked OOC opponents every year. #1 is the easiest path.
 
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A Penn State over Wisconsin or Iowa over Michigan State in a B1G Championship Game will certainly be the deciding factor for the Select 4 over a Big 12 team that goes 8-1 in conference and 3-0 vs Tulsa, Rice and Johnny Walker U. The Big 12 needs to remove their heads from Bevo's butt and improve their conference, fast.
With friends in Dallas that are huge OU and Texas fans and donors, even they are finally to realize the rest of the P-5's are pulling away. Panic will set in after this season when a 11-1 TCU loses out.

Hold up.

There's a Johnny Walker U?

Why the hell did I spend four years in Storrs?
 
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Hold up.

There's a Johnny Walker U?

Why the hell did I spend four years in Storrs?


Because:

...You thought that Johnnie Walker Black was a historic black university?
 
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